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What’s happening in America today is something darker than a misinformation crisis.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Oct 12, 2024.

  1. docspor

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    a virologist & a mathematician.
     
  2. rtgator

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    Perhaps the most delusional post ever. Or at least this week so far.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    One day you will understand the difference in “from” and “with”.

    Until then keep listening to trackers instead of basic science and medicine if you wish.
     
  4. gator_jo

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    I think I'm starting to understand your point now. It is mere coincidence that all those millions died with covid, and there were millions of excess deaths during that time frame.

    In fact, it's no different than how so many people die with injuries from a car crash. But really, they were going to die of something at some point anyway.

    Thanks Dr. Q, Medicine Man.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    If you only knew the real damage caused by the idiotic response to Covid. Tens of millions died unnecessarily due to the stupidity of the response via starvation. A response that was peddled with lies and fear. There were plenty who were silenced for speaking the truth. Any epidemiologist with a brain knew from the very beginning the thing was blown out of proportion. Italy/NewYork/Diamond Princess all defined it. Then you throw in the idiots rubbing public health and we failed to protect so many.

    You keep doing you though.
     
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  6. citygator

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    Please move the vaccine denial craziness back to the appropriate thread. Q screws up every thread with his crazy whackadoodle posts.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    *sighs* blind partisanship is an illness.

    It’s not about countering misinformation. It’s about silencing *missing information*

    LOL at people who believe we have two parties.
     
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    This is why I'm literally rooting for a military coup. Re-establish order. Cull the herd.
     
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  9. ajoseph

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    I DO talk to doctors, many doctors. My conclusion is that those who peddle the Covid lies—and I’m talking about the deniers—and those who have convinced themselves that nothing occurred in January 6, do so because that is what they want to believe. They choose to disregard objective facts to reach an absurd conclusion that gives them warmth and comfort.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    I’ve spoken to this assertion on numerous occasions. Excess mortality was staggering and can easily be explained without recourse to a virus.

    An example: according to the CDC +213,000 more Americans died at home in 2020 than in 2019. And the CDC acknowledged that less than 10% of those was from so-called Covid.

    People were so frightened from, dare I say it? Media misinformation, that they died at home, presumably from treatable ailments, because they were afraid to go to the hospital and catch Andromeda Strain.
     
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  11. ajoseph

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    You say this as if the world didn’t exist 50 years ago, when you had to vote in one day. If you get your voting integrity news from the likes of Gateway, I understand your mindset. I’d venture to say that you have no idea how mail-in ballots work, or how the checks and balances work, or the safety protocols that are in place. If you’d like to learn facts, go and talk to your local County officer elected to manage the election. They’re usually very informative.
     
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  12. gatorchamps960608

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    "No one is being intimidated at the polls"

    Red state governments: You will be arrested if you provide voters in line with bottled water.
     
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  13. ajoseph

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    On January 6, you tell us that you are an expert and it was all a lie. Tell us how many of the documents you reviewed. Tell us how many of the reports you have reviewed. How many of the statements have you reviewed. Tell us which if the January 6 Congressional findings have you reviewed.

    Or, are you one of the experts that is so “informed” that you need not burden yourself with reviewing such banalities.
     
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    I posted trackers AND the data from the WHO on excess deaths during COVID.

    I have an engineering degree - are you an english major?

    Excess deaths are exactly what they sound like. Deaths that were in excess of what was typical than before COVID happened.

    Now you can sit and rationalize all you want and make up shit about what you think these people died of, but in the end is is all related to COVID.

    Millions dead from starvation???

    You really must be an english major!!... with a minor in creative writing.
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    That’s the “way” it used to be—you had guys intimidate certain groups into not voting—From Tammany Hall to the Deep South.
     
  16. ajoseph

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    You say this as if it is true. And yet, every reputable epidemiologist ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD reached a different conclusion. Sure, QGator who spends the time researching reports published by faceless Twitter posters knows better that all of the worldwide epidemiologists engaged by the governments across the globe to we trusted with the lives and safety of each individual country’s citizens.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    Here is what Jan 6 was not. An insurrection. Something the left peddles to this day. Trump got played that day for sure. And the vast majority of lies and propaganda regarding that day come from the left.

    It was sick to watch the lies from the msm create the false narrative and lie about that day.
     
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    I’ve addressed on numerous occasions that the staggering excess mortality was due to the *effects* of panic and despair.

    2020ff was a panic-induced PCR-based pseudo-epidemic with massive reclassification of deaths.
     
  19. QGator2414

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    The ones that got it right were all silenced. And for a reason by all the ones that got it wrong. Seriously. Any epidemiologist worth anything could have known from Italy/New York/Diamond Princess that the vast majority of people were at little to no risk. If you were elderly with comorbidities in the early stages then there was a high risk for the disease. It was an airborne disease. And any honest medical professional knew masking for it was pure virtue signaling that did nothing meaningful. The one that still bothers me is that so many doctors waited too long to finally stand up against the idiots at the cdc. But they were dealing with a massive misinformation/propaganda campaign and unfortunately their job was made basically impossible due to the perception created.

    People should go to jail for pushing the shot on an entire population like they did. It was the antithesis of medicine and science.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Got a Masters in Industrial Engineering. I am quite capable in being able to understand data.

    One day you may want to look at the data. From the very beginning we knew so much about this disease. Yet we caused generational harm unnecessarily.
     
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