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Vance and Walz agree to a vice presidential debate on Oct. 1 hosted by CBS News

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Aug 15, 2024.

  1. PITBOSS

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    JD Vance:

    “Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office,”

    “I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.”

    “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy,”

    “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?”
     
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  3. gator34654

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    I'd rather see the pic of Waltz at Tiananmen Square, o wait...
    He just misspoke, like a few times he repeated this "misspoke", funny you can't remember where you were when something big like that happened right? Surely someone took his pic...
     
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  4. gator34654

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    Two sample sizes, 4 years of Trump, lower gas prices, lower inflation, lower number of illegals crossing the border, lower crime rates, and a more stable world or 4 years of Biden Harris, higher gas prices, higher inflation, higher of number of crossers, higher number of illegals committing horrible crimes and a very unstable world.
    All the Dems have to hang their hat on is abortion which basically becomes a means of birth control. The number of innocent babies dying be means of abortion should shame this country but sadly it doesn't. Strange how Biden and Harris tiptoe around late term abortions.
    What saddens me is how many Americans are being indoctrinated in our colleges, free speech by conservatives is often denied, the vast majority of news today is basically Pravda for the Dems so yes it feels like a communist country already. It seems you hate Trump more than your love for the country so turning a blind eye to what's happening on the left is acceptable. You seem to dismiss your candidates will not do interviews and whenever they do they get soft ball questions for only a few minutes. No real specific policy plans, just opportunity this and that. Like so many politicians on the left they will spout moderate proposals to gain enough votes from independents to gain a victory.

    I know this will not only fall on deaf ears, and the bacon will flow ( I do love bacon) but so be it. Regardless of what happens, I know without a doubt God is in control and I know ultimate victory is His.
    PS just so you know most conservatives like myself find DT extremely flawed, dislike the childish name calling, the twitter stuff, etc. So why vote for him? His policies for running the country is still better than the opposition. I firmly believes he does put the American people first and being a business man verses a life long politician and being rich he is beholden to no one.
    Rambling done so fire away.
     
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    4 years of Biden: More jobs, "the best economy in the last 35 years," shrinking crime rates, best ever energy production, lowest inflation rates in the world and the lowest level of border crossings in decades as of today. He also reversed the damaged caused to this country by Trump's bad pandemic response.

    All without the built in racism and xenophobia.
     
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  6. gator34654

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    Funny how the majority of people still feel Trumps years were much better and still give him better marks on economy. Just about every polling shows people have more faith in his handling of the economy and fixing the border.
    If you look closely, our govt counted jobs regained from covid during the last year of DT. IE people went back to work. If you investigate a little further more jobs were created in government employment than manufacturing.
    Furthermore, compare prices for gas, groceries, housing, apartment living, building supplies and continue to tell yourself what Biden/Harris has left us is better.
    Convince yourself that boarder crossers of gangs, criminals and terrorist that have not been vetted are now living amongst us wrecking havoc among our people. Who is paying for this? Cities are strapped, people living in fear, laws broken and many inner cities DA turn a blind eye.
    I will say this the vast media today has done a great job of brainwashing and covering for the progressive socialist party.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    Much of this is false. For example, crime rates are currently lower than at any point during Trump and much lower than when he left office.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    Herp derp. Again, inflation was global. Gas prices went up EVERYWHERE. To preach that global inflation is the result of Biden’s economic policies suggests either extreme stupidity or blatant dishonesty.
     
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  9. gator34654

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    Two things; first crime is so rampant and the police force has been reduced in so many areas, and when criminals are taken in and released without charge by lenient DA's, yes that will look good on the books. How many police are throwing their hands up knowing their effort is in vain and they will be scrutinized for anything that might or could go wrong.
    When you reduce the police force it would be easy to see where many calls aren't even answered when people dial 911.
    Unless you are blind to this, criminals today fear no consequences for basically there isn't any.
     
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    Or both.
     
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  11. gator34654

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    Or increased regulations, less fracking, oil production not keeping up with demand, and maybe just maybe the millions of boarder crossers dwindling down resources. Covid would explain a lot but the pandemic is over and still prices here are high. derp derp :)
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Another falsehood. National oil production is currently higher than ever in the US.

    U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    This is largely false. For example, there is no evidence to suggest that there are murders that are unreported. And charging a person with a crime is not how crime statistics are calculated. So even if we accepted your highly questionable assumptions, it wouldn't matter.

    The number of police haven't been reduced. In fact, it is currently higher than in any year under Trump.

    U.S. law enforcement officers 2022 | Statista.
     
  14. gator34654

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    Our govt. has learned well from Russia and China how to cook books.
    Let's face it, this is an echo chamber and no one's mind will be changed. My bad, I should know better.
     
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    I still owe you lunch so whenever you're in my neighborhood in E Tn it's my treat.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Privately collected crime data from actual professionals (e.g., Jeff Asher's data) has matched the government data.
     
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  17. chemgator

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    Maybe you are using too much oil and not paying enough taxes on it. The federal tax on gas ($0.18/gal) has not gone up since 1992. Inflation has driven the cost of things (including maintaining highways) up by a factor of about 2.0 - 2.1. We should be paying a federal tax on gas of at least $0.40/gal, but we can't get there from here because of small-minded republicans who whine constantly about the price of gas. If you were transported back to the 1970's, you would know what hard times filling up the gas tank was all about. If you were visiting Germany in 2008 (like I was), you would have paid $9.19/gal on gas. Germans KNOW how to respect their natural resources--they do not waste fuel like we do.

    There is no question that higher gas prices would help consumers become more willing to conserve fuel, which would lower demand for it, which would eventually lower prices. The U.S. is stupid enough to do the opposite: low taxes, high demand, crash course to empty. What are you going to do when the oil runs out? What are going to tell your grandchildren when they tell you they have to risk their lives and go ambush a fuel truck to get their gas supply for the year? You do know that's where we're heading, don't you?

    USDA ERS - Five Decades of Price Swings for Food and Other Consumer Spending Categories.

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    Trump's economic "success" was more a matter of being in the right place at the right time, much like Bill Clinton's economic "success". Clinton was gifted an internet economy that exploded worldwide, with U.S. companies at the center of it. Trump inherited an economy that finally recovered after the 2008 economic collapse. Both were basically born on third base and thought they hit a triple.

    Biden inherited a pandemic (the worst in a century, by the way). A lot of money was spent finding a vaccine, and trying to improve emergency services to reduce the number of people who might die from the pandemic. The pandemic was primarily responsible for the 8.6% inflation in 2021, and the 3-4% inflation in 2022-2023. The Russian invasion of Ukraine didn't help.
     
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    Trump definitely knows how to cook books. You win this one.
     
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