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UNLV starting quarterback Matt Sluka will redshirt due to unfulfilled "commitments."

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  1. G8R92

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    1) Most of these kids have agents or advisors
    2) He's a senior and has no cards left to play
    3) He's completing passes at a 44% clip so I doubt another program is coveting him for that.
     
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  2. Crusher

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    Without a Redshirt, this is his final year of competition. After the season he would hold no leverage at all and at best would probably be an undrafted FA for the NFL. More than likely he would need to get his value now, rather than wait and hope to make an NFL team (or actually go to class, get a degree, and start a career....what a novel concept!).
     
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  3. antny1

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    Getting paid isn't the issue. Paying them their perceived value is. No contracts as it stands is. Transfer portal is. The guy working just as hard riding the bench that thinks he is "working for free" because other players make more is.

    Does A tree worker getting paid hourly while the owner is making hand over fist deserve more pay?

    And none of that touches on the subject that was addressed initially, that players aren't "working for free." College players have been getting paid in numerous ways forever.

    Also 84 man rosters or whatever it is now is a great deal more than an NFL roster. Is there money to pay every lacrosse player? Golfers? Women's basketball player?
     
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  4. 62gator

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    Plenty of talk about this out there already. I’m not advocating what is or isn’t true, just that it’s out there. It’s likely what I posted earlier, imho, he wanted to renegotiate a higher NIL deal after the team went 3-0 and beat 2 P4 teams. Much more of this is on the way in the future. Gundy had a great response to this just before the season started. He told all of his players there would be no more negotiating NIL deals until after the season is over, your NIL deal is what you will get, period.

    "UNLV insider Joe Arrigo is currently live on a Twitter space. He says Sluka went into Coach Odom’s office on Tuesday and said he needed $300k to stay. Odom said that was not happening and Sluka cleared out his locker. Sluka skipped practice on Wednesday and posted his intention to leave that night. Arroyo believes Sluka got an NIL agent after the Kansas game who got into Sluka’s ear about making more NIL money. There may or may not be another school involved, but the timing of this implies that this is a play to try to strong arm UNLV into a payday now.”

     
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  5. SewaneeGator

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    As of only six weeks ago in the state of Florida.
     
  6. jmhawk88

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    Sure, I get it. I still thinks it’s an incredibly sh***y thing to do to just up and bail on your team 3 games into the season. Whether the reason is money, opportunity elsewhere, etc, it’s still outrageous to me.

    (Also sorry for the erroneous bacon. I fat fingered that on my phone)
     
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  7. gatorPUNX

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    This is some clown chit as a teammate but perhaps this is his last chance at any sort of payday for football... whatever
     
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  8. gator_n_sc

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    Yeah except many of the players (employees) on the team don't "get paid" the same ways to come to work. They have SR's and Jr's on that team who are not or were not enticed to come there to play for pay. It's mostly these newer, underclassmen who are taking on that mentality. They are not "officially" employees yet so Why should they get different treatment than the players that came because of the scholarship and Opportunity?
     
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  9. gator_n_sc

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    Some states allow it, some don't.
     
  10. gbranton

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    This kind of crap is an enormous component of my lack of interest in the NFL. I hoping (futilely I suspect) that college ball does not devolve into NFL-lite.
     
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  11. antny1

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    I'm the opposite. Watching some teams in college stack talent before and now after NIL under the illusion of college athletics was hard to get behind. Especially with Florida in the dumpster and Georgia winning titles and getting away with murder along with a couple other schools.

    The NFL is what it is and people know it. It was hard to watch initially when free agency had players like deron cherry playing for the chiefs most hated rival at the time but once you take your heart out of it and just enjoy football for what it is I think the NFL is easier to swallow.
     
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  12. KronoGator

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    In the NFL there are contracts, a lot of them guaranteed, guys are gonna play until the contract is over, college football now has guys quitting because they got a better off during the season, that is tons worse then the NFL.

    Won't be long before guys get "NIL money" to throw games, might already be happening, going to be ugly when it comes out.
     
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  13. kalaniocc

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    i miss the days before this stuff
     
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    Huh...look...the current state of affairs sucks..but good for him to standing firm on his worth...he went there expecting something...most likely reminded them..they figured he wouldnt pull the nuclear card and he did. I dont see the big deal here.
     
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  16. traubgator

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    still the issue is none of this is NIL -- its all pay to play
     
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  17. gatorwalrus

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    There is a really simple solution to this stupidity.
     
  18. gatorwalrus

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    We've moved from players can't get paid while getting brown bags to they can't be paid to play while negotiating deals for playing football while just happening to be at a specific school. We all know they are being paid to play.
     
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  19. G8R92

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    Eliminate collectives and pay the players directly.

    “The NIL, because it becomes a third-party piece, you lose control,” Kelly said. “And that’s why the revenue sharing piece is so important and getting that legislation passed now puts that back through the universities. And now those contracts can be written a lot differently. When you’re dealing with a third party and collectives and NILs, the universities are at arms length. And so it’s much more difficult to put in the kind of language necessary to kind of see that a maybe a quarterback doesn’t leave halfway through the season or, you know, a guy doesn’t opt for a particular bowl game. Revenue sharing changes the dynamics.”

    Kirby Smart, Brian Kelly react to Matthew Sluka redshirting: How to fix NIL, promote revenue shares
     
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  20. Crusher

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    I totally agree with you. Its crappy to the nth degree. Also considering what college football has morphed into (unrecognizable, sadly) it was predictable to the nth degree. You can thank the Supreme Court, the feckless NCAA, and Nick Saban for this state of affairs.