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A unifying moment

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by garettk, Sep 14, 2024.

  1. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    Also hampered by sanctions. Also was his own worst enemy with some on-field PlayStation decisions and the way he handled the media at times. Those last two things seem to be behind him.
     
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  2. gtr2x

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    It's all subjective but given their results id say both Kiffin and Sarkasian have both progressed rather nicely since they were in the "'coaching septic tank".
     
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  3. bobbybaker86

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    kiffin was dealing with sanctions when he was at USC
     
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  4. 2oldgator

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    Unfortunately, you are right. And yes, the school and fans get the shaft.
    If you want to be relevant there’s a king’s ransom to be paid. Thank you Jimmy Sexton and friends.
     
  5. UF24ou14

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    Schools have contributed to the problem. Steve Spurrier was the first $2,000,000 coach. No one makes the schools pay that much. Those contracts that just enrich coaches that aren't good and keep getting recycled making shitty coaches rich. They get extended contracts for barely living up to what the original contract requires. An example of these stupid contracts is what we have to give Napier for sucking. Personally, I can suck at anything, so I should've gone into coaching, cuz it obviously doesn't take much know how. I'd be a rich man.
     
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  6. paidinfull

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    Saban ran a helluva rehab program. No doubt about it.
     
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  7. DanseRusse

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    I must have missed something awhile ago. Where did this love for Kiffin come from?
     
  8. paidinfull

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  9. gator_n_sc

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    His "what have you done for me lately" work has grown on many fans. Oh and having Ole Miss as a top 5 playoff team with a stacked QB room and impressive portal work doesn't hurt.

    I believe that a splash hire, one that will really make headlines could make this transition very smooth, and they could hit the ground running. There is only truly a couple of realistic-ish options out there. Lane Kiffin and Urban Meyer I think would really shake up the college landscape. Their varied levels of success aside, I think those two have the Name recognition the recruits still want to play for.

    After thinking about it, and at first thinking why would urban try to do it again.... then I thought, this is exactly something Urban may try to tackle, going back 15 years later to the school you won 2 nattys at and try to win one again... has that ever been done? I mean that's one way for him to for sure win the hearts back of many scorned fans and would definitely put him in the ROH (which he should be anyways)
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Disagree. Imho, we are witnessing the caboose end of a century long era that ran from Knute Rockne through Nick Saban (perhaps Kirby Smart (vomit))--the era of the head coach.

    That era is ending, due to NIL and the portal. Paying the right coach big bux made sense, when the coach had the power.

    The power dynamic has shifted to favor players, so a system geared to succeed has to be catered to players--hence my line (under emphasized) about implementing performance based incentives for the players--currently would have to be processed as/through NIL, but I suspect just a matter of time to dispense with the pretense, and go to direct play (pay for play).

    Iow, CFB coming full circle to the pre-knute rockne era player-coach dynamic. A back end incentive loaded contract bridges the gap bt HC era and player coach dynamic, where the players control the teams fate, where the players are invested in the results directly, rather than vicariously through the coach.

    To your point though--we don't need to get anyone to come here. That's antiquated mercenary thinking.

    We have more than we need, in Gator Nation. Zero reason to go outside of it. 3 Nattys, 3 h-mans, 9 SECC's, and a 100+ year tradition and history...

    We have the knowledge (what it takes to win SEC and Natty), the resources, infrastructure, school /fan support....

    No reason other than desperation and inferiority complex to not keep it in house.

    And if we're going to make multi-millionaires....let's make em of Gators. Take care of our own, rather than outsiders.
     
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  11. spike718

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    Cuz beat reporters have already stated that Ron Robert’s has been the one calling plays this year. Not our youngster.
     
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  12. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    there is ZERO chance urban returns

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    is this the 2024 version of Gruden???
     
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    It seems Roberts is the one in charge of this defense and making the defensive calls. Just like Napier is the OC even though it is by “committee”. There is so much opaqueness about who is responsible for what under Napier.
     
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  14. twodaparty

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    Just waiting for the firing.
     
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  15. TrueGator

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    OK, then that rules Roberts out. Maybe the whole defense has to go. Maybe we can get one of those at Walmart.
     
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  16. UF24ou14

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    We didn't?
     
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  17. original zin

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    I sat through that season too and totally agree. Larry Ochab is still one of my favorites due to just want to above talent.
     
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  18. garettk

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  19. sjgator

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    Why did urban make Netflix swamp king?

    he wants uf to take him back in good grace.


     
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  20. sjgator

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    Take a look at scott forest at Nebraska

     
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