::: Trump v. Harris Debate Thread, Tue. at 9pm on ABC

Daaaang....

 

Sounds like the mods must have been awesome, live trump fact checks?

 

One detail that jumped out to me was him prefacing the claim about millions of immigrants eating peoples' dogs and cats by explaining that "[a] lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it." I suppose that was the built-in excuse about why the news of this widespread problem is not getting out? I know he's not an animal/pet person, but I think he underestimates how much Americans love their dogs and cats.

 

Not true. You are clearly uninformed. Kamala lied repeatedly throughout the debate except for her anti-Israel opening. Not once did the fact checkers correct her, so this was more of a coddling of Kamala than a debate. It was 3 on 1 to me.

You are simply too biased to accept the fact that ABC held a non-debate. It no wonder why Kamala refused to go on Fox News. They wouldn't have put up with her lies. That she is willing to now go on NBC tells me plenty about who would be the moderators.

If I'm Trump, it's a hell no to more debates unless Kamala also agree to go on Fox News. There is no way to have a won meaningful debate by either side having Trump fight it out 3 on 1. Disney/ABC should be ashamed of themselves. They're not because they won't give up being woketard even though they have lost $billions crapping on the American people.

 

I know I changed my mind on the vote when he announced that world leader Victor Orban endorsed him.

 

Not mocking it. Saying it is a non-issue in the context of much larger problems we have to worry about. I know it happens because I believed my father in law.

 

A truth we heard last night from Trump is that the abortion issue has been an extremely polarizing issue for many years and will continue to be so in the future. And I agree with Trump to let the states decide and get the federal government out of the process.

And by the way, did Harris ever answer the direct question asked as to whether she supported allowing abortions in the third trimester of pregnancy?

 

It sure came across that way because everything she did to bait Trump into looking like, well … Trump, worked beyond expectations. Look no further than his response to the softball question of whether he would sign a federal abortion ban, “They tried to eliminate student loans.”

Or his 10 minutes spent in responding to his crowd size.

Or the subtle way she baited him to bringing up cat-eating and then calling him out as the unhinged lunatic he appeared to be.

For all of Trump’s so-called brilliance at debate, he came across last night as a tired, stale act.

 

Now we know what the secret ingredient is to Cincinnati Chili!!

 

Trump is saying leave it to the states because he realized most people were ok with Roe v Wade when the GOP started losing elections. He's now saying "leave it to the states" to save face.

 

WWIII

Eating our pets

Israel won’t exist

His whole message was about fear porn, with no substance whatsoever. I think that came out loud and clear last night.

 

Sounds like ABC just shot their 'journalistic' wad...no chance in hell she goes on fox. Last nite will probably be the last you'll see her outside of campaign events.

 

Fact checking

Fact-checking Kamala Harris and Donald Trump's 1st presidential debate - ABC News (go.com)

HARRIS CLAIM: 16 Nobel laureates say Trump's plan would increase inflation and land us in a recession
FACT-CHECK: Mostly true
HARRIS CLAIM: Trump wants a "20% tax on everyday goods" that would cost families "about $4,000 more a year."
FACT-CHECK: True, but needs context
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump said, "We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before. Probably the worst in our nation's history."
FACT-CHECK: False, but it was high
HARRIS CLAIM: Harris said, "Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression."
FACT-CHECK: True
HARRIS CLAIM: Trump "killed" bill that would have secured border
FACT-CHECK: True
TRUMP CLAIM: Haitian migrants eating pets in Ohio
Fact Check: False
HARRIS CLAIM: Trump 'intends on implementing' Project 2025
FACT-CHECK: Needs context
HARRIS CLAIM: Harris said, 'If Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion ban.'
Fact Check: False
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump said, 'I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy [Pelosi] rejected me.'
FACT-CHECK: False
HARRIS CLAIM: If elected, Trump would be immune from criminal prosecution
FACT-CHECK: Partly true
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump said he ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and 'Biden put it back on day one.'
FACT-CHECK: Mostly false
TRUMP CLAIM: Harris and Walz support abortion 'in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month… And probably after birth.'
FACT-CHECK: False
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump said he lost the 2020 election on a 'technicality' because judges determined he lacked standing in election lawsuits.
FACT-CHECK: False
TRUMP CLAIM: The Biden administration left $85 billion worth of 'brand new beautiful military equipment behind' in Afghanistan that was seized by the Taliban.
FACT-CHECK: False
HARRIS CLAIM: Harris said of the Central Park 5, 'Trump took out a full-page ad calling for their execution'
FACT-CHECK: True
HARRIS CLAIM: Trump exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un
FACT-CHECK: Mostly false
HARRIS CLAIM: Biden-Harris made historic investments in clean energy
FACT-CHECK: True
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump suggested he 'probably took a bullet to the head' because of Harris.
FACT-CHECK: False
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump said, 'Iran was broke under Donald Trump. Now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had.'
FACT-CHECK: Mostly false
HARRIS CLAIM: Harris said, 'The former president said climate change is a hoax'
FACT-CHECK: True
TRUMP CLAIM: Trump claims Europe giving billions less to Ukraine than the U.S.
FACT-CHECK: False

 

MAGA should definitely spend a lot of time and energy on this dog and cat thing. Definite winning strategy and not weird at all

 

Actually she asked for another debate last night.

 

They also slammed Kamala on her inconsistencies, but she handled the questions well. Trumpeters don’t talk about those direct questions to Kamala. When Trump was confronted, he looked unhinged.

 

Because he doesn’t

 

That is a crazy woman born in the US that doesn't live in Springfield or nearby. Good find. Its already been debunked. But RFK ate a dog and killed a bear while he might have been a dem though.