Lol, saw this on Facebook: “For the first time since they started voting, my grandparents are voting democrat this November. Ya know, they would never have done that when they were alive.”
There is evidence that non citizens have voted in our elections. You are ok with that. The extent of how big of a problem and how big of a problem it could become is the issue. You seem like you just want to ignore. Good for you. I'll be with the rest of the country wanting 100% of the votes to be legal.
It is amazing someone will condone, if not be willing to sanction, illegals voting in US elections ….. but will absolutely lose their minds over what they think is a “mean tweet”. These folks are just “messed up” and have no perspective. Sad.
I'll post this again. Several studies by experts and they all agree on one thing. Voter fraud is extremely rare in the US. Why can't people accept this fact when those who study things like this for a living all agree on it, and there's never been a study in the past 25 years that has shown voter fraud is a widespread problem?
I can live a few dozen instances of illegal votes out of a hundred of million. Those people who get caught pay severely - in some cases multiple years in prison. The risk/reward is just not there for individual citizens to purposefully cast a fraudulent vote and it's not possible for someone to orchestrate fraud on a large enough scale to tip an election. It's all give and take. You will never get to a point of 100% of votes being legal. See the first post in this thread as an example. Even if you did DNA testing, you could never be sure that 100% of votes were legal.
Some people are bad faith actors who are pushing Voter ID because it will help their side by suppressing votes on the other side. Other people seem to have some sort of problem that just can't be fixed.
So we start out with someone voting illegally in a state that has required an ID to vote for more than a decade. And what does that mean? That clearly we need voter ID to combat fraud, of course.
What is amazing that poster won't be able to show any evidence of his claim " will condone, if not be willing to sanction, illegals voting in US elections" thus making his entire post worthless.
It’s a cardinal sin for an American to support open borders, a “quick-n-easy pathway” to citizenship, and no ID voting in elections. It’s nothing more than mindless progressivist insanity.
Ya, the first two of those don't actually exist. Keep talking about them, though. And the third doesn't result in voter fraud. At least there's no evidence that it does.
Poster must have been outraged at the serial adulterer felon when his influence killed the Border Bill that addressed immigration issues. Seems like Melania and her family likely triggered this poster as well for her "“quick-n-easy pathway” to citizenship". Wonder if it's enough for him to vote Democrat?
There are dozens of things that require a photo ID to function in our society. How on earth are people without IDs doing these things?
Why assume that people a) don't have IDs and b) are doing "these things" (whatever they are)? Aren't there dozens of things that don't require an ID to function in our society? Can you point to any legit evidence that the lack of ID requirement increases voter fraud? According to this piece on election integrity, not a single one of the top ten states require an ID to vote. Electoral integrity in all 50 US states, ranked by experts The ten worst states: 41. Ohio...................strict photo ID 42. Georgia...............strict photo ID 43. Rhode Island........photo ID requested 44. Pennsylvania........no ID required: Strict ID law struck down by supreme court 45. South Carolina.....ID requested 46. Mississippi...........strict photo ID 47. Oklahoma...........ID requested 48. Tennessee...........strict photo ID 49. Wisconsin............strict photo ID 50. Arizona...............strict non-photo ID It does not appear that the ID states are fairing well in election integrity.
Why have an ID for anything if having one doesn’t prevent fraud? Seems to me that there is a ton of mental gymnastics to justify not needing one. I just don’t get it.
Voting is a right, not a privilege. IDs work well for privileges, like driving or travel. Having an ID requirement for voting adds an unnecessary barrier and solves a problem, voter fraud, that barely exists. What's the point?
Oh boy, such an unnecessary “barrier”. It’s a right for those who legally are allowed to do so. No legal ID you can’t prove who you are, pretty simple.
It's unnecessary because total fraud for all reasons is infinitesimally small. 1 in 50k to 100k votes. Several studies over several elections pan this out. Needing an ID wouldn't catch all the fraud either. The woman in the OP had a passport. So please, tell me why we need a solution to a problem that barely exists, and a solution that wouldn't completely solve the problem?
