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Trump proposes leap toward socialism with "sovereign wealth fund"

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    LOL. You need a new avatar. Try this one...

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  2. Gatorrick22

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    You need a new schtick. It's KAMALA HARRIS that will take your rights away, (everyone's rights) and people that vote for her are communists for voting for her communist totalitarian BS...
     
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  3. citygator

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    I wasnt aware I had an old schtick. I think it is funny watching you wrestle around with socialism as a GOP member because the orange guy proposed it. Sure it's not a cult.
     
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  4. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

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    Since when do communists regimes share money with its people? They don't and if the idea of a Sovereign Wealth Fund is enacted and is driven by the tariffs we put on trade cheating countries of the world, then We The People all benefit from that fund. And it's we that people that would have voted for it and We The People that can use that money to our benefit...

    Norway is far from communist, and they have a great Sovereign Wealth Fund... look it up and educate yourself for a change, instead of tossing personal insults at people because you don't understand a Government that works for the people... versus the government that subjugates the people.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    It is funny that if Democrats want to emulate Norway, you come here to scream Communism. But when Trump does, you are all in favor of it! I agree, Norway isn't Communist. They are a Democratic Socialist Country. Are you in favor of that now?
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Lol... no they are not socialist... Tell me which industries are owned by the government.
     
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    Oil industry, healthcare provision, aluminum industry, telecommunications, and their largest bank, as well as about 30% of their overall stock market.
     
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  8. BLING

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    This is even dumber than the idea Mexico would pay for a wall.

    So not only do you not understand tariffs are an inflationary tax imposed by the government on its people, you actually think doing huge tariffs will create a magical nationalized “wealth fund” that you would get a cut of???

    All you are doing here with this nonsense is showing your incredible gullibility.
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    They do not own them like in China, Cuba, North Korea and several other Marxist/Socialist/Communist countries. They have regulations...
     
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    Why not charge every single person $100 every time they go past that border/wall? Think about how fast we could pay for that wall.
     
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    The “sovereign wealth fund” of Norway, just like the Saudi’s, exists because the government owns the oil companies.

    The two governments are obviously very different from one another, but in both cases we are taking about a nationalized industry that brings in those trillions.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Their oil company used to be known as Statoil (literally state oil) before merging with another company, with the joint company being owned by the Norwegian government...

    And no, they aren't a Communist dictatorship as the states you listed. They are a Democratic Socialist country, as I stated. Who knew all you needed to become a Democratic Socialist was Trump to tell you to be one.
     
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  13. Gatorrick22

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    Links, please...

    So in this version of "socialism" the people make all the profits from that deal? LMFAO!
     
  14. BLING

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    No. They literally do. It’s a nationalized oil company and the Norwegian govt retains the profits.

    Apparently they also have mining (Store Norske Spitsbergen Kulkompani) 99.99% owned by the govt and their telecom (Telenor) is majority owned by the govt. There are smaller industries with govt run stakes as well manufacturing and research. They actually have more nationalized than I realized. None of this would fly here.

    I don’t think just a couple of nationalized industries makes them commie so long as individuals have freedoms and property rights, but I’m quite sure if anybody on the left proposed any of that you’d be quick to call that communist (for recent history, look to the affordable care act which actually was just “regulations” with nothing being nationalized).
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

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    I need to see links, please.

    At what point does the "socialist" government become capitalist by managing an industry?

    And we all know labels are unless... The USSR was communist, not socialist... And The people Republic of China is NOT A REPUBLIC... It's a communist regime. We can go one and on with these MISNOMERS, and it will not settle that what Norway is doing with their Sovereign Wealth Fund benefits the people because they pay money TO THE CITIZENS, instead of taxing them into ownership/subjugation.
     
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    The Norwegian state as shareholder
     
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  17. Gatorrick22

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    This is the prefect way to share the wealth amongst all the citizenry... Agreed to by the people for the people...

    BUT IT'S NOT SHARING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, LIKE IN REAL SOCIALISM...
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    It is hilarious how you are trying to frame yourself into being a supporter of socialism. Well, if Trump makes you pay a tax and then redistributes the money through a sovereign wealth fund to everybody, that isn't "real socialism." It is only real socialism when somebody other than Trump does it.
     
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    Kamala is a real wealth stealing... freedom taking... liberty hating COMMUNISTS and you are about to vote for that crap, so nothing you say to me matters. Now... Go back to your framing job.
     
  20. mdgator05

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    Lol, what industry has Harris suggested should be purchased or confiscated by the US government?
     
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