Historical temps are determined both by scientific notations /recordings but also from a variety of methods using tree rings, ice cores, sedimentations, coral growth etc
You don’t think vehicles produce CO2 when fuel is burned??? I like how you say this so definitively when it’s just embarrassingly wrong. If you burn any hydrocarbon (coal, wood chips, oil whatever) the reaction releases primarily CO2 gas (along with other nasty particulates and chemicals depending on what you are burning or how it was industrially processed). Carbon monoxide comes from incomplete combustion. Been a long time since I took Chem so maybe chemgator could explain the how/why this happens in the chemistry. I’m also at a loss why you think that would be a good distinction “it’s ok guys, not a greenhouse gas, it’s just this more deadly unnatural thing instead”.
Poor guy must be channeling Ronald Reagan, who (in)famously once said trees are bigger polluters than automobiles. Not the Onion. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...at-tree/fcb1657a-6987-44f3-86c4-89daa1409fb1/
Their logic is fascinating. “Guyz, climate change is a hoax. Look at the temperature readings from 100 million years ago. No humans around and the earth was HOT”. They trust numbers measured indirectly, by scientists, from when no humans were around. But when looking at data measured directly with modern instruments (which should be pretty solid data sets for around 100 years). “You can’t trust those crooked agenda driven scientists”.
First, I don’t buy the “Global Climate Change”. You and your ilk originally screamed, jumped up and down, and wet your pants about “Global Warming”. Then when the data actually showed some cooling, you changed over to “Global Climate Change”. The media, as they always do with leftist causes, refused to acknowledge the rebuke, and moved forward with the Global Climate Change nonsense as if Global Warming was never a claim. Unfortunately for you, I am not the media, and I don’t let people just walk away from their lies like they never said such things. You can roll out all the over emotional, under educated, and angry European teenagers you want and that won’t change anything. Secondly, I gave you a simple data analysis that you cannot refute. The data is not collected in any controlled, consistent, scientific manner and therefore is flawed. If the data is flawed, then the conclusions drawn from it are flawed. This is simple and any nonpolitical, objective, reasonable person should clearly see this. So, without good clean data, your argument is simply opinion, or more likely, as ATL has pointed out a huge deception to funnel government money into the hands of leftist groups.
It has been 47 years since there was a year with a below average temperature since the start of the 20th century. When was this supposed cooling, specifically? Which years? Also, are you going to acknowledge now that cars produce CO2?
No, because they do not. They produce CO, Carbon Monoxide. You know, mono, as in one vs. do as in two. Carbon monoxide, while poison in highly convent levels, is not a greenhouse gas. Feel free to scream, jump up and down, and wet yourself all you want.
So therefore they are not scientifically controlled and consistently collected. Thank you for helping me make my point. I want expecting help from you, but appreciate it nonetheless.
So the EPA doesn't know what pollutants a car produces? Can you provide a link backing your claim that cars don't produce CO2?
Since apparently you think that the EPA doesn't know science, how about the Department of Energy? Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This is actually a problem scientists completely acknowledge and have gone to great pains to control for. The BEST project was developed to reanalyze the temperature readings correcting for this problem. Richard Muller now convinced world is warming
Sigh. Yet another global warming thread where a bunch of right wing fools display their total ignorance. How many of these have we had over the years?
Maybe we should be building flood control reservoirs and floodgates along the Mississippi River? You know, in case the rains overwhelm the riverbanks like it does every few years?
We have patiently shown poster the scientific methods used to collect scientific data. We have referred to the scientists that show that emissions from combustion engines contain CO2, we have pointed out scientific recording of temps worldwide that have consistently increased over 40 years. Apparently this poster needs an intelligent adult to explain these large words to him to assist his ignorance. Poster should endeavor to get a triple digit IQ friend to help him. At this juncture poster is embarrassing himself. Be better.
