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Fundamental restructuring of UF football

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorwalrus, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. CHFG8R

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    And just to return to the original point. This system (players dealing directly with teams/clubs signing new contracts when they move) makes far more sense under the current rules than whining because you can't get the genie back in the bottle. All I'm saying is do what they do, cut out all the BS and just go with a straight capitalist approach. No unions. No lockouts. Just players and teams negotiating individually. If you want to throw academies in there, great. Another good idea we should probably consider. Or, we could just let all the best FL players leave the state every year.

    That was the point. Not asking you to watch soccer. Don't give a Rat's ass if you do. Your loss, not mine. I'll watch live action. You can watch regurgitated nonsense on pre-game shows. Have a nice day!
     
  2. paidinfull

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    You barked at me, I was talking to someone else. I'm not threatened. I just really don't care what you watch, or how tv deals are structured for a sport I do not watch. I wouldn't get mad if I saw it on tv, I'd simply change the channel, or maybe not go to that channel in the first place. I honestly can't remember the last time I accidently stumbled upon a soccer game and had to change the channel. I'm not sure it's ever happened.
     
  3. paidinfull

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    I don't make tv deals. I didn't structure how players are assigned to their teams. I won't have anything to do with the way either are structured in the future. I simply said that commercials is part of how the networks pay for the insane deals they've given to the conferences. I also don't watch pregame shows. I would prefer they nix those, fire all the people associated, and use that money to shrink the amount of commercials. They can fire the commentators too. Maybe have one guy around to explain a ruling occasionally. I also understand that's unlikely to happen, and me throwing a hissy fit won't change it.
     
  4. gatorwalrus

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    I understand the desire for CFB to be CFB still, but it's just not going to happen. Rather than fight it, try to get ahead of it.
     
  5. FranceGator

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    College football fan: "I don't like pro football."
    Market: "Great, we're bringing pro football to college football."
     
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  6. paidinfull

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    The court system played it's role as well. The market was always there, and honestly a lot of this stuff has been happening for a long, long time. It's just more out in the open and on a much larger scale.
     
  7. gatorwalrus

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    So, do we just lay down and say it's our turn to be stuck in rut and hopefully we win on the next scratch off? That seems to be the general attitude. It's ironic for a fanbase who loved the phrase "Scared money don't make money."
     
  8. CHFG8R

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    See, we're learning here. I like it. Anything to cut down on the constant commercial breaks. In this day and age (with our ever shrinking attention spans) it's game breaking. RedZone pretty much saved the NFL for me and even now I can't sit through a whole game unless it's the Gators.
     
  9. gatorwalrus

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    I would have a financial advisor as a staff position. Want to talk about preparing these young men for the future, they could be damn near set with some good advice.
     
  10. CHFG8R

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    Not like this. I mean, we can now openly offer money to get someone to transfer. How long before they start waving money at our Fr QB, if they aren't already? Maybe the concept of transfer fees isn't that crazy after all.
     
  11. CHFG8R

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    Or maybe more cautionary tales will put some sense back in the system? And I'm pretty sure they've had those kind of advisors for quite a while, predating NIL. In this case, maybe the market (failure) is the solution.
     
  12. gatorwalrus

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    At best the AD is a jack of all trades, not a football executive. There is a big gap.
     
  13. gatorwalrus

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    OK then who does?
     
  14. tommyvee

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    No, we don’t lay down, but understand it’s extremely rare to pull a Saban or Smart out of a hat. I think our expectations are higher than what is available out there. Now, Mullen would’ve gotten us into the 12 team playoffs his first 3 years if that was on the table at the time. But would’ve we have won any championships? No.

    I think a guy in the tier of a Lanning (when UO hired him) or a Malzahn is who we need to target. I’m just saying we have richer expectations than what is available or what our pocketbooks can handle.
     
  15. gatorwalrus

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    Ange ball is nothing if not entertaining.
     
  16. gatorwalrus

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    The ONLY reason I watch UF games live and not from DVR starting 2 hours in is to participate in OGT.
     
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    They were offering him more money before he signed with us, and you can rest assured that hasn't stopped. If you want to apply your soccer rules to the way college sports and television are run, do it. I don't care. I never said I like commercials or I like the way the current system is. I'm just saying what you want is a pipe dream, and bitching about it here is not going to change anything.
     
  18. gatorwalrus

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    If we're set in doing things the way they have always been done, I'd rather we gamble on a up and comer than to adjust expectations of getting a OK coach who will go bowling every year. Many may disagree after so much futility, and I certainly underatand it, but that leads to mediocrity as a new norm. Really hard place to get out of.
     
  19. tommyvee

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    There are no sure thing is the issue. With the expanded playoffs, finishing Top 15 gets you into the conversation every year. When you look at it through those lens (SEC schedule notwithstanding), does a guy like Gundy who wanted the UF job when we hired Napier make sense? Guys like a Kliff Kingbsbury would be interesting as they can hit the ground running.

    Your up and comer though will be current assistant coaches from successful programs like Ohio State or Georgia or a Golesh.
     
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  20. gatorbreeder

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    We'd be better off with fan controlled football at this point. Let us all vote in the next coach. We can weight the votes by alumni status and years spent outright worshipping the program.