But Arkansas just re-hired Petrino as OC and they just hung 70 on an HBCU team. Seventy is a lot for Arkansas regardless of competition.
Yes, let's just stop it, because the coaches we've been hiring since Meyer have worked out so well for us... I love getting stuck in the rinse cycle... of hiring a young up-and-comer only to demand a replacement coach 2 or 3 years later. That crap has to stop!!! Yes, let's continue to do what has NOT freaking worked for WELL OVER A DECADE... THIS INSANITY NEEDS TO STOP! Now... I'm not suggesting Meyer is the answer... but he needs to be a real possibility.
It would be a mistake to at least not kick the tires, especially if we don’t have a top five or 10 coach in the nation willing to come
You’re probably right, but it’s a nice fantasy. Lol. Ironically Kiffin might be a safer hire than Meyer at this point because he’s still in the college game. It’s amazing how 5-6 years ago, this wouldn’t even be a conversation. To me Urban Meyer was up there with Nick Saban from 2006 through most of the 2010s. It was those two, and then there was everyone else. But as Mullen has shown us, coaches are real people with real incentives. Urban, however competitive he may be, doesn’t need the college game anymore. Championship level head coach at this level is an absurdly high effort job. You take away that “need to win” mentality, and you take away the elite coaching status for most people. That said, in a conference with Alabama, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, and Georgia… 5th best in the SEC isn’t so bad anymore. We don’t need to be back to where we were in 2005-2009 for me to be happy. I’ll take “fun to watch again.”
There are two ways of not hiring an "up-and-comer": 1. Hire someone like Kiffin or Meyer. 2. Don't fire CBN and let him stay for another 3 or so years no matter what. Now deciding what constitutes an "up-and-comer" might be a little subjective, but this is pretty much the situation.
Just for shits and giggles, what do you think the contract would look like that Would entice Kiffin? And then will Florida even entertain the idea of paying that amount?
A king’s ransom. However, Kiffin is probably as safe a pick as we’re going to get. And I think we’re seeing now it’s more expensive to hire the wrong coach than to overpay for the right one. So here’s what I would do if I was Scott Stricklin, I would have an unofficial middle man get a feel for what it would take to get the safest options to come here, make sure it can happen to the highest possible degree of confidence, then only pull the plug on Napier if you can make that deal happen. I’d rather wait another season or two to save money for the right coach, than pull the plug now and spend the pennies that we’ll have left after firing Napier on the wrong one.
I think there are certain degrees of success. Kiffin hasn't won anything, yet he's been successful at competing at a school that hasn't been good in forever. Though, he still has not put a complete season together and won it all. Still, he's more than an up-and-comer, IMHO. Meyer had been there and done that, the question is has he grow and fixed his game and does he know how to win in the portal/NIL era? The other names being bandies around are just wannabes that we cannot afford to take a chance on at this point in time. We cannot afford to miss again. We need someone that can save our team, that is, keep the good talent from all portal-ing out. A newbie coach (up-and-comer) will not keep this team together... and we're back to square one... with a team trying to build talent from scratch again. That part matters, and it must be a main consideration when deciding on which coach to offer.
Meyer’s the higher ceiling. Kiffin is the higher floor. I’m the fan who enjoys seasons like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, and 2020. Just make us fun again. Watching games like the Miami game was just torture.
The only way Urban gets back into coaching is if he feels the need to rehab his coaching chops after the Jacksonville disaster.
Heck, give him an unlimited expense account at Cafe Risqué if that gets him through the day and brings the wins.
Coach who wins NCAA championship(s) then goes to a Florida NFL team and fails miserably then comes back to NCAA and becomes the greatest NCAA coach of all time. Am I referring to Saban, or HC Urban Meyer when he comes back to UF next year????
I’m not suggesting we stick with Napier. I’m just saying bringing someone we once had is not going to happen. How many head coaches have left a place and then came back to it? I can’t think of a whole lot of them? Honestly the only one that I can think of that comes close to that is Stoops coaching the bowl game after Lincoln left for USCw
It's rare all right. But "not going to happen" seems more certain than warranted at this point. Off the top of my head I can think of two, one fairly recently and one a long time ago: Bill Snyder at KState and John Robinson at USC. Arguing that you can't recapture the magic or trying to turn back the clock is unlikely to work out seems very justifiable. It is, after all, a discussion board discussing things that may or may not ever happen. But no way and never? We'll see.