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Fundamental restructuring of UF football

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorwalrus, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. gatorwalrus

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    Seth Varnadore pitched a really interesting concept of removing football from the UAA and putting in place a corporate type structure. A board of directors with former players, coaches, agents, and NFL execs. Board hires a GM, GM hires the coach. This removes school administrators from making coaching hires of which they know next to nothing about. I love this plan as well as a similar one presented by GNFP. Do we see these fundamental changes in football structure and is there any chance UF would lead the way?

    Starts at about the 51min mark (wouldn't embed). Also, reviews some film earlier if interested.
    https://www.youtube.com/live/unb-Pu_yQ08?si=P17xSC9oGVEOm-cr
     
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  2. sierragator

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    In this vastly altered world of the sport formerly known as college football, it makes to sense to take a completely different approach if we intend to actually field a competitive team.
     
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  3. gatorbreeder

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    No more corporate takeover! These buzzword loving coaches have ruined this program. We need some low down, dirty bastards who only care about winning.
     
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  5. gator4ever88

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    As fast as things have progressed I would say that is a good start. Having players as employees is unimaginable.
     
  6. jmhawk88

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    Precisely. Napier is as corporate as it gets with his 12 step process and army of analysts. Cool, you can organize a group of people. Can you coach
    football???
     
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  7. gatorwalrus

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    Apparently you didn't watch. Seth says BN impressed SS with a bunch of binders. That's why you have football people in place to hire the coach and not an AD who doesn't know what he is doing.
     
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  8. WC53

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    In general an appointed board is a shat show. So hired governance? The board is a great opportunity for folks trying to seek relevance and importance.
    But it may be what is needed. Definitely a professionally run Org.
    But as I joked a year or two ago, just separate sports from the University as it no longer as an educational component. License the Gator name ;)
    Players Union and a college draft are next. We have jumped the shark. No offense to Butters
     
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  9. gatorwalrus

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    Is a corporate structure worse than academic administrators making the decisions?
     
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  10. northgagator

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    The corporate pirates are looking for a return on their money.
    Funding and running a top college football program has to produce wins and make the projected profit line.
    Let the corporate pirates hire the dirty bastard and litigate the their misdeeds with the plantifs in courts.
     
  11. gatorwalrus

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    The names he tossed out for the board like SOS, Urban, Shane Matthews, Ran Carthon, etc. makes sense. Hopefully interests aligned in the program.
     
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  12. gatorwalrus

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    People getting hung up on the word corporate, guess I should have used non profit, would be essentially the same thing.
     
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    Put the genie back in the bottle
     
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  14. sierragator

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    A serious examination of why a football team called the Florida Gators is fielded. Just to say we have a team? To compete for titles? to earn a paycheck to get our asses kicked? Obviously a lot has changed since 1906 when the Orange and Blue first took the field. Considering that history, that turf in the Swamp is hallowed ground. All the blood, sweat, tears, and titles that have been fought for over the past century plus. Do we want to sully that? Go Gators!
     
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  15. FranceGator

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    I watched it. Fine, but remove "University of" from the name. If it is too big for the university and requires, as he said, "people who understand the industry", then it's no longer part of the university.

    He'd probably advocate players no longer being students and being employees. Even if not, the chain-of-command is incented towards "industry", not "student-" in student-athlete.

    There was nothing in his pitch about athletes, students, developing young men. It was all about winning. Not part of the university mission.

    I hate it. College football without the college.

    I'll also add: he could get much of his proposal from a different search committee which was given the final say on coach hire.
     
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    College football enthusiasts have deluded themselves into thinking that our beloved sport would be something like it was "with just a few tweaks" to compensate the players.
     
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  17. gatorbreeder

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    Yes
     
  18. sir percival harvin

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    Why would anyone associated with the University agree to that? How would an incoming freshman feel that such a team provides a sense of representation that draws him or her in to be a fan? I would prefer service academy ball to that monstrosity.
     
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  19. Wanne15

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    All I know is watching our team get humiliated is not enjoyable in any way. Whatever it takes to win games is the only option that will continue to fill seats.
     
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  20. 31g8r

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    The bigger question is why have we failed the last 4 times and why have other teams with less pedigree appeared to have done a better job of identifying competent HCs

    Spoiler alert others havent spent near the dollars. Also NS and Bama ruined college football with the machine that was assembled to dominate in the vacuum oversight left by the ncaa. It removed the historical cyclical dominance that lasted 2-5 years.

    The new nature of 12 and potentially 16 teams competing in the playoffs provide a bigger margin if error for w and ls
     
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