Breaking: School shooting with multiple fatalities in Georgia.

I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm also pretty sure that nobody said a background check WOULD help in this case.

However, background checks can definitely help keep firearms away from criminals. That is obvious. Isn't it strange that in some places background checks are being removed for private sales? (see North Carolina) Republicans there are basically making it easier for criminals to have access to firearms.

Potentially more relevant to this case might be mandatory trainings for firearms. IDK all the details here yet, but it could be like Sandy Hook, where a clearly negligent person allowed a disturbed family member access to firearms. How hard is it to better teach people not to do that?

I've just picked the lowest hanging fruit - things that are so easily and obviously identifiable to help reduce gun crime. But people like you and people you vote for seem to oppose every rational safety measure ever introduced. Here you are trying to create a strawman argument, so that you can essentially oppose any and all rational gun legislation.

Sad.

 

With nobody shooting back, a variety of guns could have done that or worse. At those ranges, virtually any rifle or shotgun round is going to be pretty devastating. How long was he shooting unchecked before he surrendered?

 

Your terrible enslavement makes my eyes rain.

 

rinse and repeat until the next one, and the one after that, and so on.

 

The Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) civil litigation settlement in 1998 absolutely caused a decrease in cigarette consumption. Why do you disagree?

 

That sums it up nicely.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d8ef7db565d08b/11/55/66d9e099be87305a01e4732d

“The 14-year-old arrested after a mass shooting at Georgia’s Apalachee High School had been “begging for months” for mental health help before he allegedly carried out a deadly attack Wednesday, according to an aunt of the suspect.

He “was begging for help from everybody around him,” the aunt, Annie Brown, told The Washington Post. “The adults around him failed him.”

Brown, who lives in Central Florida, declined to elaborate on the teen’s mental health challenges but said she tried from afar to get him help. She said his struggles were exacerbated by a difficult home life. He and his family had “previous contacts” with the local child services department, Chris Hosey, the director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, said at a news conference Wednesday night.

Brown said that in January, she helped her nephew enroll at Haymon-Morris Middle School in Barrow County so he could finish eighth grade following a period of absenteeism. He had just started ninth grade at Apalachee High this school year, she said.“

 

I said he SHOULD be on the legal side I didn't say there was a law he broke and that he would be charged. I know there have been other cases where parents have been charged in shootings by their kids. I have no idea if that will be the case here. Also how do you know what assets the parents have? There is no amount of money to make up for the loss of lives but that does not mean they are not civilly liable.

 

Well you brought up background checks and we are talking about this shooting that involves a 14 year old. You don't know what I oppose. I have been through many background checks and even fingerprinted in association with guns right here in Florida. I don't have a problem with them at all and don't want felons having guns either.

 

It’s still absurd, as one side is almost universally for some type of gun control measure - and in order to stop even the “common sense” measures - which 70% of America support - the NRA just needs to peel off 1 Democratic Senator to keep the status quo.

Whereas the Republican side is almost all in bed with the gun lobby (the few who would cross the isle get targeted, and they know it, which is why you have more republicans posing with guns in creepy Christmas photos than would support universal background checks).

The idea this is a “both sides” thing is completely nonsensical.

 

Sounds a bit like those Michigan parents that were charged with negligent homicide, although in that case I believe the gun was literally the kids birthday/Christmas gift.

The parents here better hope they don’t have incriminating texts/emails on the mental illness subject or it could go similarly.

 

73,000 people died from Fentanyl in 2022 and the Dem's have done nothing to stop it from crossing into the US from Mexico.

 

Due to the lack of laws, there is a pretty good chance that simply leaving his gun available won't be enough to charge him. That is because the pro-gun lobby has prioritized the convenience of gun ownership to safety. Should that be the relative balance or should we have laws against poor storage, even to the point that it might inconvenience a gun owner?

I highly doubt that they have the millions that would be necessary to pay off 4 wrongful death suits much less the multitude of suits from injuries. Why shouldn't we require insurance to own a gun to pay off these payouts?

 

You want to stop fentanyl, make other drugs legal. Fentanyl is preferred because it is much harder to catch than other drugs. If other drugs were legal, then organizations would try to sell drugs that don't kill their customers.

 

There was a lot of money in that border bill to help fight fentanyl

 

It seems national politicians like intractable problems they can fundraise on it endlessly without ever trying to solve it.

 

Other than propose the most rigid border bill in history that was politically bad timing for Donald Trump so it was killed to keep the border as is.

 

Ban assault type weapons, make a national gun registry, do more thorough background checks, pass laws charging parents if their children use their guns to commit crimes are just some of the things we can do as a country. We won't ever get rid of all guns, but some of those measures can for sure help.