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Regardless of Billy’s lack of results on field

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by username, Sep 3, 2024.

  1. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

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    I dunno, with a million in the bank, that helps, and more sure to come, and supposedly DJL does love being a Gator.
     
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  2. gator34654

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    Kiffen, go all in!
    Having said that SS has pretty much gutted the program with the huge buyout for BN. To pull Lane away for Ole Miss, I'm not sure we have the money to do that plus the fact that our brand has been badly damaged. Think how much money has been wasted on ineffective assistants, assistant coaches and BN. I always wonder if these guys ever feel bad for getting rich by sucking at their job. I doubt it.
    So, whoever the AD will be I'm guessing we go bargain shopping. Someone who has had success in portal for that's where we will have to build.
     
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  3. TJtheGator

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    In the era of NIL and the portal all bets are off.

    It is a chance we will simply have to take.

    Good news is an incoming coach can quickly rebuild a roster if he does well in the portal.
     
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  4. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

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    I think FSU is suffering from subpar HS recruiting campaigns Norvells first few cycles and the new transfers are not up to the standard
    of his previous portal guys. (just my opinion)
     
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  5. Gatorhead

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    Can I put a clothpin on my nose? lol
     
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  6. kryptonite

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    In retrospect, instead of letting the Giants s&c coach leave for BC, we should have bought out Napier and hired Obrien and got both.

    Regardless of the coach we get we have holes that coach will have plug (DT is obvious). If the coach is a homerun hit, the donors will boost NIL, and we will be able to get who we want. As soon as parity happened with NIL, we needed the best X's and O's guy. But we got the talent acquisition guy, when the acquisition happens from the Collective and not from the coach being a great guy. Don't get me wrong CBN had identified some good players, and they should have gotten more reps to prepare for the meat of our schedule: Pup, K. James, McCray, Graham, Chiles, Kearney(we were hearing he was the 6th man), etc.
     
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  7. WC53

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    I agree, but only if you have someone who creates buzz and emotion. CBN didn’t.
     
  8. doctorg8r

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    Long-term, I absolutely agree. In the meantime, we are a very bad team on both sides of the ball. The OL for UF graded out badly. If you have a line that doesn't pass block well, you make quicker throws and the QB takes a shorter drop back.
     
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  9. ocalaman

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    Agree - I know Steve Spurrier was 1 in a million as a play caller, but he was great at drawing up plays on the fly and scheming to work around our weakness while taking advantages of the weaknesses of other teams on a week-to-week basis. There is no creativity whatsoever from Sun Belt Billy.
     
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  10. ocalaman

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    Player development has been lacking for sure. 3 star linemen CAN get better if coached properly.
     
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  11. username

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    Ehh, TP works both ways. Offensive players aren’t going to be like “oh we hired lane Kiffin/urban???? I’m out”
     
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  12. username

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    Let’s just hire the redemption team

    urban
    Mullen
    The dazzler

    muschamp

    together, they can collectively redeem themselves.

    what could possibly go wrong?
     
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  13. paidinfull

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    Exactly. This won’t be some Zook to Urban transition. The new coach will have to re recruit the entire team, and it’s highly unlikely the rosters between the two coaches even remotely resemble each other when it’s all said and done.
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    He has done a fairly decent job recruiting skill players, but the glaring deficiency in his recruiting is on the line of scrimmage, on both sides, the offensive and the defensive side.
     
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  15. gatorpjb

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    Shane Matthews had an interesting observation this morning… he said of the many OC’s throughout all levels of Football, only a handful were great.
    Of course that point is obviously true, but it was the names he named that was interesting… Spurrier was a given, but he also mentioned; Kiffin, Andy Reid, Kerwin and Kade Bell, Jeff Brohm, and Dan Mullen as being in that group (there were one or two more I don’t recall)
     
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  17. jump_pass

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    Kade Bell will be on the shortlist for HC jobs before long.

    Analysis: Pitt tantalizes with numerous options in debut of Kade Bell's up-tempo attack
     
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  18. kryptonite

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    It was interesting in Shane Matthews' podcast you posted the link to earlier that it is not all pressure that it a problem either. Matthews pointed out that the play in which Mertz was intercepted, the route calls for a 15-18 yard route and Mertz tried to complete it for 20+, and if it had been earlier (under no pressure) at 15 yards (the receiver had started to look back then), it would have been a 1st down, and we would have been in business. It just shows that how the routes are to be run isn't ingrained in either the qb or the receiver. Sometimes it's mistakes by qb, sometimes by receiver, sometimes by OL, sometimes by trying to use the wrong personnel, sometimes the scheme doesn't work for any personnel, sometimes it is a whiff by one of our players, and sometimes it is just a better defender keeping the play from happening. If we had cut out the first 5 reasons that are largely under the players' control by being properly drilled, we would have been much, much , much more successful on offense.
     
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  19. eViLG

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    Defense has been our biggest problem since 2020.

    Let’s fix that first.
     
  20. northgagator

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    I agree with you. Except back then there was no Portal for the players to jump into.
     
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