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Regardless of Billy’s lack of results on field

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by username, Sep 3, 2024.

  1. username

    username GC Hall of Fame

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    Does anybody else feel like if we are able to hire a good offensive mind as HC and then retain the existing cornerstones (Lagway, incoming WR class, for example) we are set up to win immediately after nape is gone?

    Watching Napiers “program building” aspects has always led me to believe that he will be filling the coffers for the next guy, worst case scenario. Obviously anything can happen with the TP/NIL but I think we might be set up very well next year, assuming a proper coaching staff is hired.
    Thoughts?
     
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  2. antny1

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    The problem will be the vultures circling to feast on the meat of our roster...
     
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  3. believer

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    I think it would be extremely difficult to keep Lagway and some of the current/incoming WRs with a new head coach. It almost seems as if players are waiting for a reason to transfer nowadays. Maybe it’s ’grass Is greener’ syndrome.
     
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  4. SewaneeGator

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    I think Billy did many good things about the systems and logistics surrounding and supporting the program. I also think he's made inroads in recruiting in state that changed things for the better in comparison to our last two staffs. And I do think our talent level has improved. There's a lot of good in a general sense but very little to show for it on the field. It's definitely my hope that the right coach can put these better pieces together in a much more effective way.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    uga, bama, et al will be poaching for sure but that should not drive the decision.
     
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  6. SewaneeGator

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    Everyone remembers that Urban inherited a lot of talent from Zook's excellent recruiting. But it seems overlooked at how demoralized and ineffective that talent was before Urban turned things around. Players like Dallas Baker and Ray MacDonald were very frank that they were considering transferring or quitting before he came but the new staff transformed everything and they were so glad they stayed.
     
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  7. ocalaman

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    Until they get quality guys in the trenches this program is going to struggle against good teams.
     
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  8. SewaneeGator

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    And the portal works both ways. The right guy could, despite who we might lose, radically transform the roster for the better--like the lines--in very short order.
     
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  9. username

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    I think a lane kiffin/urban hire fixes those issues immediately. People won’t leave them. The hire is crucial of course but not sure why Lagway and a bunch of good WRs wouldn’t want to be coached by a proven offensive mind like Kiffin is, and like urban always hires as his OCs
     
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  10. username

    username GC Hall of Fame

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    And why wouldn’t an overlooked OL want to play for Kiffin or Urban? Honestly the answer could be on our roster. We are SUPPOSED to have a ton of young OL talent, just none elite. But obviously way better than what has been displayed so far
     
  11. Kirby

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    Norvell did that last year. His problem is he didnt sustain it.
     
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  12. believer

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    A home run hire would definitely help.
    I hope some big boosters are already in lagways ear about what’s next.
     
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  13. maxgator

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    Would you feel comfortable with your commitment after hearing about how much better we were going to be and seeing the same old shit?

    We as fans are at the breaking point. And we aren't the ones who have to stake our potential future on where we play in college.
     
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  14. gatorogue

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    Agreed. But the recruiting has improved and the players are better. The on field performance is lacking. As I’ve said I like Mertz. He can make the short passes in BN’s pedestrian scheme but that’s it. He’s solid and a leader but not the ringer UF needs at the QB position. He’s not the guy. Time to move on to DJ for the rest of the season. And DJ needs coaching help. And BN’s not the guy. The Gators need an actual offensive scheme run by a real offensive coach. Replace BN with an interim coach. There’s no way that the coaching staff does not include an individual who has the respect of players and the other coaches. An individual who is primed to go and understands what it will take to utilize the talent on this team. There’s got to be someone. SOS said to do things differently. Start now. I guarantee the players and maybe some coaches are talking. BN is a likable guy but he’s not the guy. Keeping him on is simply accelerating the program’s death spiral, and inflicting more damage. It’s year three already. No more evidence is needed.
    Go Gators.
     
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  15. freedomgator

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    Meh. The SEC is tough and contrary to popular belief it often does take some time to get a program turned around. That said, if the roster isn't completely gutted by transfers I think the next guy will be walking into a pretty decent situation.
     
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  16. staticgator

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    We do not have quality players in the trenches but some coaches are really good at squeezing out what they can. Our 2006 championship team did not have quality players on the OL as far as the NFL is concerned, but Urban Meyer has historically been a really good OL head coach and he had those guys playing well as a unit. Look at what Boston College just did to FSU. Bill O'Brien is a similarly good OL head coach. We don't just need a coach with fancy play calls. We need someone who can make our trench players punch above their weight.
     
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  17. archigator_96

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    On the flip side (trying to find a silver lining), get a good coach on a good team and he could bring some elite players with him.
     
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  18. 06GATORS08

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    Transfer portal and NIL don't allow you ato stock the cupboard. It won't be Meyer following Zook.

    Ideally, next guy brings a core but that's also a tough scenario to execute.
     
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  20. antny1

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    I can see that for sure. I just don't see them as possible hires. I'd take kiffin in a heartbeat.
     
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