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Trump flip flops on the abortion problem he created, infuriating religious conservatives

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Aug 30, 2024.

  1. WarDamnGator

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    When asked his thoughts on the Florida referendum on abortion, which would end Florida 6 week ban, Trump said he would be “voting that we need more than six weeks.”

    Does this idiot not realize that is what he purposely created?

    But we should welcome his support for Amendment 4, so at least Florida can fix the wrongs that Trump’s hand picked SCOTUS brought to America.

    Trump had repeatedly declined to weigh in on the referendum, but on Thursday, he told NBC that Florida’s six-week ban was “too short” and added that he would be “voting that we need more than six weeks.”

    During the GOP primary, the former president called the decision by then-rival Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign a six-week ban “a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/30/politics/donald-trump-abortion-politics/index.html
     
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  2. ursidman

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  3. duggers_dad

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    Trump could sanction killing toddlers and single women would vote against him for taking away abortion rights.
     
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  4. PITBOSS

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    I don’t get maga and abortion. There are still 100s of thousands of abortions even after overturning RvW but Trump is wavering and it wasn’t an issue at the RNC.

    “But this year, during his Thursday night speech at the Republican national convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Trump did not proudly declare anything about the “unborn”. In fact, he was conspicuously silent on the topic of abortionas were almost all of the other speakers at the 2024 convention. Even JD Vance, Trump’s outspoken new running mate and an Ohio senator with a history supporting a national abortion ban, did not bring it up in his Wednesday speech.“

    New report finds abortion numbers increased in 2023 despite ban.

    Conspicuously absent from Republican convention was any mention of abortion
     
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  5. sierragator

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    Of course they are running away from it. Their move to ban it is unpopular with most Americans.
     
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  6. vaxcardinal

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    His values haven’t changed :D
     
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  7. ursidman

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    Its not going to change my vote whatsoever.
     
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  8. Gatorrick22

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    Abortion is still legal... Trump did nothing.
     
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  9. WarDamnGator

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    Now that Trump is “pro baby murder” everyone’s got to pivot….

    I have to wonder, if life begins at conception, and embryos have souls, then what’s the difference between being OK with abortion until 6 weeks (DeSantis’ position), abortion past 6 weeks (Trump’s position), and Roe v. Wade? Is it not “murder” if you do it sooner?
     
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  10. sierragator

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    Yet Trump was boasting about how his appointments to the scotus got roe overturned. The gop is working feverishly to take the right to choose away ( as they bark about liberty and freedom; obviously the irony of that is lost on you).
     
  11. gatordavisl

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    Wait . . . are we know in favor of flip-flopping? Just trying to keep up.
     
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  12. G8tas

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    If it makes Trump look good then yes. If it's anyone else then they can't be trusted and they have no values
     
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  13. GatorFanCF

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    Per the OP's title - I thought SCOTUS created the "Abortion problem" back in the 1970's when they created a "right to privacy" which is nowhere to be found in the Constitution. That error has since been corrected. Remember, folks, DEMOCRACY!!!
     
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    He has values? :confused:
     
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    I think the whole purpose of overturning Roe was to return the option of having an abortion to the states for them to decide. I think in every state that has voted since the Roe was overturned has allowed for abortions in those states.
     
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    He’s so hilariously full of shit
     
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    I listened to his interview and did not interpret him as saying he was in favor of the amendment. He had a chance to say that, but didn't. He said he was going to vote for longer than six weeks and that is not an option...it's either 6 weeks or viability. He can't think on his feet and normally he doesn't have to as the Fox "news" people spoon feed him. During this interview, he didn't know what to say. His internal polling has to be telling him he's getting killed on the abortion issue, but he can't about face to viability without alienating huge chunks of his base. I think he avoided the question until he could get back with his advisors and be told what to think/say.
     
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    You know what else isn't in the Constitution? The internet, credit cards, automobiles, jets, border walls, student loans, health care, gay marriage, etc, etc, etc. It's intended to be a living document with a SCOTUS to help take that document into the 21st century. This "lets pretend it's still 1787 and we all live in colonial times" nonsense is absolutely ridiculous. The sooner we can undo the damage to SCOTUS Trump has done, the better this country will be.

    Just because the concept of a penumbra right is beyond your ability to process doesn't mean it's not valid. The Constitution doesn't have to contain the magic words "right to privacy" for that right to exist.

    Your post demonstrates an ignorance as to how the penumbra right to privacy came to the legal forefront. It wasn't Roe, it was Griswold v. Connecticut. I'm sure you and others of your persuasion would love to go back to the days where you could be imprisoned for the use of contraceptives. That "in case you got lucky" Trojan you kept in your wallet all throughout college would have cost you a minimum of 60 days in the slammer. Is that what you people want?

    I can well imagine many on the right's bedrooms are not exactly hotbeds of activity and that's why you insist on constantly making everyone else's your business. Keep your damn noses out of other people's private areas. Make the people's around you lives miserable, not everyone else's.
     
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