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Another grocery chain quits selling cigarettes

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Aug 29, 2024.

  1. gatorpa

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    I’m not sure where you get the idea most is being used by people older than you. I have kids 21/19/17. According to them 70-80% of the kids in their schools are using it at least 2-3/week and many daily.

    And the legal age is supposed to be 21 like ETOH.

    Any kid with an internet connection can buy “delta 8” ThC-a Thc-m online.

    IMHO it shouldn’t be sold online at all. Can you buy booze or smokes online?
     
  2. danmanne65

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    Both of us are using anecdotal evidence. If only there was a survey.
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  3. antny1

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    That seems to be dated. Curious what today's numbers would be since they stated that senior citizen use was on the rise even then.
     
  4. GatorJMDZ

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    Ask one of the doctors where you were work to talk to you about alcohol poisoning and alcohol related deaths (178,000/year.)
     
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  5. danmanne65

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    I looked it was published in 2017 and the data came from 2014. I wonder if this years census asked the questions. The idiots were against the census doing anything other than counting.
     
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  6. enviroGator

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    As someone that has some familiarity with Delta 8, and the other recently legalized THC like compounds I'll share a bit of what I know.

    The 2018 Farm Bill legalized hemp and all byproducts of hemp as long as the Delta 9 (the normal THC molecule people are used to) is less than 0.3%.

    What they didn't understand was that hemp contains more than just Delta 9, but also dozens of VERY similar molecules that also have psychoactive effects. As long as the molecule is "natural", meaning present in hemp, industry is free to synthesize as much of the other compounds as they wish. My understanding is they start with the CBD that is in the hemp, and then convert it to the THC like compound they want.

    Delta 8 was one of the first to hit the street, but now there is THC-M, THC-O, THC-P, THC-A and likely more. Delta 8 is referred to as "weed lite" because it is said to only be 1/2 as powerful as Delta 9. But THC-M is supposed to be something like 50x more powerful.

    One funny thing is THC-A is the molecule Delta 9 turns into when it is heated (ie., smoked).

    Where things went terribly wrong is in their hate for all regulations, the bill specifically said Hemp products could not be regulated (other than for the Delta 9 concentration).

    So now there are products out there that look just like candy, taste just like candy, and can be bought by a 5 year old because you can't even put an age limit on it.

    Well done republicans. Typical short sighted thinking.

    They are talking about amending the Farm Bill and may do away with the loop hole that allows the other compounds to be legal.
     
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  7. antny1

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    Thanks. Jives with my experience with it as quite a few patients claimed they bought it at a gas station and then presented some cartoonish and fruity looking packaging. Really interesting.
     
  8. enviroGator

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    I always said you couldn't OD on weed. But recently had a friend come close to ODing on some THC-A gummies. He had been overseas for years and wasn't aware of the recent changes with hemp (and he is a bit dumb) and bought some 500 mg THC-A gummies. He thought they were limited to 0.3% so they wouldn't be that strong. WRONG.

    He ate two of them. Luckily for him after it started sinking in, his body was like, "OH HELL NO!" and he ralphed up at least some of it.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    Having a bad experience when you take too much isnt really "ODing" if we are using it in the same sense as heroin/fentanyl or stuff that will actually kill you. You can overeat and have your body react by throwing up. That isnt ODing on food.
     
  10. enviroGator

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    I understand and agree, and would never compare any drug to heroin and fentanyl for lethality. But gummies are dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
     
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  11. antny1

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    Yeah, you rarely see the "alcohol is not as dangerous as weed" argument. Quite a take. It's wrong on just about every level.
     
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  13. RealGatorFan

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    Ouch. The majority of their sales include tobacco. I know many many many people who only go into a convenience store to buy cigs so they'll just get gas and go on their way.
     
  14. RealGatorFan

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    I know some herald this as a good thing, but I don't think it really is. If demand prompted them from removing them from the stores, that's one thing. But to remove them because they are considered bad for your health, well, might as well empty the store because every single edible item they sell are bad for you in more ways than tobacco is. I kind of keep going back to the Demolition Man, where everything bad for you was banned leaving only a few things left for purchase. The book goes into more detail, but once Pandora's Box was opened, it took everything with it.