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Kamrade Kamala's Biggest Flip Flop + Another on Same Day

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Aug 27, 2024.

  1. gator95

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    Didn't need google to say she is for not having a wall, abolishing private health insurance and EV mandates to name a few. But good job being the Harris fan boy. We are F'ed with either candidate.
     
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  2. citygator

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    You should have googled.

    No one is “for a wall”. The democrats for decades support border security bills including barriers, including walls, where needed. Check out Trump speaking in front of the wall Obama built.. AND her and Biden just had the only bipartisan border bill in decades. So that is a lie or at least a pointless point.


    Trump Holds Event at Border Wall Obama Built

    She is not for “abolishing private health insurance”.

    Recap for you:

    Kamala Harris’s Medicare-for-all plan, explained

    Addressing this question — since private insurance would effectively be done away with under Bernie Sanders’s Medicare-for-all proposal — has been central to the current Democratic debate over health care.

    In laying out her proposal, Harris notes that she supports the same end goal as Sanders, but draws some distinctions in how she would go about getting there.

    Unlike Sanders’s, Harris’s plan would include a substantive role for private insurers, which would still be able to offer plans under a tightly regulated system, similar to the way that private insurers currently do through Medicare Advantage. Additionally, it would transition Americans from the existing system to Medicare-for-all in ten years, instead of four. And finally, it would use a slightly different payment mechanism: Harris backs several of the methods Sanders has suggested, including higher capital gains taxes, but would only impose taxes on households making $100,000 or more. Sanders’s plan, meanwhile, would impose taxes on households making $29,000 or more.
     
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  3. gator95

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    LOL. Of course you run to Google to get it. Too funny. And no, I'm not reading your harris propaganda. I listen to what Harris actually said the last time she was asked about these topics which was in 2020 election. Go look at her answers in the debates from 2020 and get back to me. But I know you will just try to gloss over those facts. The middle hates both choices. You and your far lefties are just as bad as the far right. Go back to your echo chamber...
     
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    Key here: she won’t be Trump while finishing Trump’s border wall.
     
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  5. citygator

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    I am not sure what is funnier. You thinking you are the middle, or you yelling about echo chambers from the echo chamber.

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  6. okeechobee

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    Apparently "tilting left" to l_boy means ranking 1st out of 100 for the most liberal voting record in the Senate, to the left of Bernie Sanders.
     
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  7. gator95

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    I am in the middle. Sucks that you are so far left that you don't understand what middle means. I am for 20-24 week abortion limits, anything under 15 weeks is a non starter for me. I'm for strict gun laws(banning assault weapons) and national registries and much more stringent background checks. I am for higher teacher salaries and am good with raising taxes on those families making more than $500k a year(inflation of course can move this number). Those are some of my "far right" positions to name a few. Can't wait for your comeback...
     
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  8. gator95

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    It's crazy some think she's not far left. Shows how powerful the media is as well as showing how uninformed some people are.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    I mean, her campaign is basically "Let's see just how stupid these people are. I won't give any interviews or do any press conferences. No hard labor. Bet they won't even notice. Dangle Beyonce a couple of times and they'll be good. Suckas!! hahaahahahhaa"
     
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  10. okeechobee

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    I hear some folks are actually trying to get this legalized. Wonder who they'll be voting for...
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    You can do it when you own the pageant.
     
  12. citygator

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    If you put shit in quotes I had better have said. I didn't say you were "far right". I said you weren't the middle. You have called me "far left" several times, not just the one above I highlighted. Do you always post so hypocritically? It's like you are trying to self-own yourself of something.
     
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  13. gator95

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    You are far left. Hate to break it to you. And I am in the middle. Considering I haven't voted R in a presidential election since 2012 proves that. Let me know the last time you didn't vote for the D candidate in the election.
     
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  14. 92gator

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    Not so. Just because he co-opted the Party in which conservatism finds the closest thing to a home (the GOP)--doesn't mean he co-opted conservatism.

    Trump is the POTUS nominee of the GOP.

    He is not the appointed Godfather of conservatism, or even its face du jure.

    He has gotten the support of conservatives, but that's a function of the options available.

    You can drop all the names you want, beginning with Nikki Haley, to the Bush's, to Bob Dole, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Ted Cruz, Mitt Romney... all suffer the taint of 30+ years of Republicans getting conservative support after campaigning conservative...and not voting conservative once in DC.

    A fundamental crisis of crediblity.

    Trump represented a big gamble; he courted cons, and they accepted; they agreed to take a chance on him.

    ...and he delivered on one of the biggest fronts of all--the SCOTUS. Which in turn, delivered the US, from Roe v. Wade. Mind you, this was in the wake of the same SCOTUS green lighting the abomination of gay marriage (with Bush appointees' support).

    And he delivered a >3% GDP, after Barry famously said (words to the effct of): 'the days of such were past, this is the new normal', and "...what's Trump gonna do? wave a magic wand?"

    ....and he brought back energy independece, tried to deliver on the wall...

    No new wars, world was in order...

    He did a fair amount earn the trust conservatives placed in him, though he was significantly de-railed due to Covid.

    But that's besides your point.

    TBL: DJT is NOT the spokesman for conservatism; he just earned their support. For one more POTUS election cycle (as he is barred from a subsequent term).

    Trump will be done and gone in 4 years; conservatism will find a new horse to hitch its wagon to.

    And it will remain what it's always been--the resistence, to the ever eagaer desire to grow government to encroach into individual lives, by the ever more aggressive Left, that has pretty much abandoned any claim to liberalism, in favor of a rigidly radical progressive/socialist orthodoxy.

    You support the latter by abandoning the former, no matter what your reason, or how skank you think Trump is.

    I've said many times before--dude's a toad--but he IS, an effective obstacle/ shield, to the aggressive lefitist cancer that threatens us....and whoever said chemo was supposed to be fun?
     
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  15. 92gator

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    &

    Gentlemen, permit me to offer my services.

    Since I straddle the 50 yard line and am therefore dead center, then you may therefore measure where you lie upon the political spectrum, by where you stand vis a vis me.

    You're welcome. :cool:
     
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  16. tilly

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    At least it would make what Trump did "legal"...so there is that.
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    Hardly spam, I just have to call out inconsistency when I see it.

    Sorry if it’s a problem.

    And I’ve been clear where I stand on Trump for quite some time.

    So far I still think both candidates suck, the Dem candidate just sucks a bit less than the guy she replaced.

    It’s funny now that Harris is so great when 4 years ago she barely got a vote in the primaries. I guess that’s what ya have to do when you circle the wagons to defeat Trump. Sad
     
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  18. gatorpa

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    That’s a fair enough explanation.

    TY
     
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  19. gatorpa

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    Or some of us don’t like Harris either, least you forget nobody liked her much in 2020.

    Perhaps we don’t like her far left voting record and can see through her “evolution” that just started since she became the nominee.

    There are some of us who really aren’t beholden to party, you might try it some time.
     
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  20. gator_jo

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    Yeah, I can clearly see that. You're beholden to your party even if they support, defend and lie for a criminal to the point that many of them, certainly their leadership, should be considered criminals themselves.

    It's actually shocking to see how many of you have, apparently, zero concern for such crimes against our country as criminally trying to overturn an election.

    But hey, you do you. I think I'll pass, thanks.
     
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