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Kamala Harris: Democracy Is "Incredibly Strong And Incredibly Fragile"

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Aug 18, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    Bottom of a pint glass
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  3. AgingGator

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    Is this the 2024 equivalent of; “I was for the war in Iraq, before I was against it”?
     
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    She’s a mess and hasn’t a clue ….. spent her life in a nonsensical do-nothing leftie bubble.
     
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    Makes sense to me.
     
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  6. docspor

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    this applies to Trump too. maybe 'ats why he's a pro-choice lefty.
     
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    Prince Rubert's Drop. Strong & Fragile.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    No, I don't think it makes any sense. The first part of her statement is true. Which is why no matter what whomever says, Donald Trump can never take away our democracy, even if he wanted to. But be wary of the sheep in wolves clothing who tells you that you need to vote for them in order to preserve our democracy. Our Constitution, our system of checks and balances already does that for us. We don't need Camela to save it. Besides, price controls on food is not democracy. Open borders is not democracy. How she wound up with the Democratic nomination is not democracy.
     
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    I disagree. The framers explicitly made it clear that these checks & balances only work if the folks charged with enforcing them do so.
     
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  11. okeechobee

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    I've been on the fence about the ad hominem. But I think he should keep doing it. Look, I sat by and watched the John McCains and Mitt Romneys attempt to play it above the fray. It doesn't work, because the other side goes low every time. If nothing else, what Donald Trump has taught the GOP is that you have to brawl with them. That is unless you like losing.

    I think Trump is doing fine. He's winning the EV in the average of polls even today. Hillary led by 6 points in mid-August 2016. Did him saying "you'd be in jail" at the debate hurt him? Did he get brownie points for being nice to her? Nah.. he went low and brought all of Bill's bimbos to the debate and voila... he won. Watch and learn...
     
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    Brawl?!? he just adopts their leftist policies (to the extent he has policies) & sells 'em to the suckers under the brand, America First. Pretty sad that you/they can't smell a turd merely due to the packaging.
     
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    I agree with some of that with respect to Clinton. Best to remember that Clinton is not Harris. Middle America does not despise Harris the way many people in the center despised Clinton. Middle America is concerned with how Harris’ left wing policies might impact them, not how execrable of a person she is. Learn that the hard way if you like.
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    Well, ehh.. 6 weeks ago, Harris had lower favorables than Hillary. So maybe give it a little time? I know if I had to choose between the two, I'd vote for Hillary 100 times out of 100. With Harris running the show, you basically have Jake Sullivan-lite, with a little more estrogen and a lot less experience as CIC. Hillary did F up with the deplorables comment. Rule #1: don't mock half of the electorate.
     
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    I think Democracy probably survives Trump. But why risk it with someone who is so openly hostile to it? I’d say the tail risk of diminishing Democracy is greater under Trump than others. The more likely risk is something Orban like, where democracy becomes in name only as government rides roughshod over the press and opposition.

    I don’t want price controls - a stupid policy that isn’t going to happen. I do support more Border security, but Donald Trump sank the border security bill so that talking point of yours has problems.
     
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    Yeah, right. Like you would ever vote for a woman for President, all qualifications being equal.
    Tell your Rule #1 to the candidate you're so infatuated with. He has done NOTHING to unite people, only divide.
     
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    Don’t look now, but you are this close to a policy contrast with that statement.
    On the second part, I have no argument since it seems clear to me now that Jake Sullivan was taking advantage of the President’s mental state to isolate him from his other advisors and run his [Sullivan’s] own foreign policy. On the first part, I have no proof, but I doubt your assessment of Sullivan’s estrogen levels. My guess is that it is abnormally high.
     
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    Another maga starting useless threads while in panic mode.

    Makes me happy.
     
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    Or . . . McCain and Romney were weaker than their opponents. No wonder you love to carry Trump's water.
     
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    All time fave guilty pleasure movie.
     
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