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Israeli Intel Knew Oct 7 Plans in April 2022

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  1. Aug 18, 2024 #1
    G8trGr8t

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    Why did they sit on this? Sounds like the same arrogance that allowed Ukraine to move into Russia

    Is this the same intel group deciding on who and when to bomb?

    IDF leaders didn’t know intel chiefs obtained Hamas battle plan in April 2022 – report (msn.com)

    IDF intelligence chiefs never told Israel’s most senior military and political leaders that Unit 8200 had in April 2022 obtained a document setting out Hamas’s plans for what proved to be the October 7 invasion and slaughter in southern Israel, Channel 12 reported on Saturday.
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    The 40-page plan, the Times reported at the time, laid out almost exactly how Hamas eventually wound up carrying out the attack: “The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7.”

    Israeli intelligence officers reportedly determined that the terror group was incapable of carrying out an assault of such a large scope, or possibly unwilling, and dismissed concerns about it.

    According to a Channel 12 report on Saturday night, the Arabic language document, which was written in October 2021, was obtained by Unit 8200 in April 2022 and translated. It was seen by IDF intelligence chief Aharon Haliva, 8200 commander Yossi Sariel, Gaza division commander Avi Rosenfeld, and then IDF Southern Command chief Eliezer Toledano, the report says.
     
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    ncargat1

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    Natural question from this report is......was this gross incompetence and arrogance by military and intelligence group that assumed Hamas could never pull this off? Or, was this Israel's Battleship Main or arguably Pearl Harbor?
     
  3. Aug 18, 2024 #3
    VAg8r1

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    Or Israel's 9-11 which was in large part of the result of the failure US intelligence agencies to connect the dots.
     
  4. Aug 18, 2024 #4
    PacificBlueGator

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    There's a good article in the New Yorker about Sinwar and his leadership in Hamas leading up to the attack. Notes from Underground

    The article compares it to a Pearl Harbor moment. Sinwar predicted Israel would fall asleep 20 years ago and Hamas would hit them when they did. He was also publicly broadcasting it before the attack, which makes it even worse. As Sinwar noted, it's a battle between a nuclear power versus a country with slingshots in comparison. The attack accomplished an over-reaction by Israel receiving international condemnation, which may give Palestinians more voice in negotiations about their fate. Ironically, it was Netanyahu who enabled billions to be funneled into Gaza through Qatar, that built the tunnel structure to hide and launch attacks.
     
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