Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

Kamala's housing plan

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Aug 16, 2024.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Which of the things I listed did he actually do Okee?
     
  2. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    10,808
    1,354
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Who cares? I saw another source that says 900 charging ports are being added every day in America. If they can do that without tax payer help, and make a profit, that's better. Maybe the Infrastructure bill was miss on this ... if the charging companies don't want to get in bed with the federal government and all the baggage that comes with that, and just build them on their own, and that's even better.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,823
    1,067
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    I don’t like it either. Rather than outright banning the practice my proposition to correct the trend is to remove deductions for rental homes to make them far less financially attractive. Allow corporations to deduct 90% in year one, 70% in year two, 40% in year three, and nothing there after. Watch how quickly BlackRock gets out of the SFH rental market.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,823
    1,067
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Like you I’m in the home building business (pretty certain you use our products) and everything indicates there’s 3x the housing deficit as that number you cited. Now, maybe an additional 1.5m on top of current rates of new build building activity would relieve enough pressure to allow significant price relief. I could see that, but I think as a society we’d benefit from getting closer to filling the deficit.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. ETGator1

    ETGator1 GC Hall of Fame

    15,901
    1,804
    808
    Apr 3, 2007
    People like you and including you can build 3 million homes per year? I find that hard to believe.

    Just yesterday, new home building dropped significantly as you should know if in the construction industry. Existing homes available are up but new homes are down. Maybe you should be in the renovation business.

    Insofar as your unhinged rant on Trump is concerned, I consider it to be off topic, funny, and deflection from the most woketard presidential candidate this country has ever seen, nothing short of a socialist if not a communist to boot. She is adopting policies from both socialists and communists.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  6. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

    9,037
    2,031
    3,013
    Apr 3, 2007
    Bottom of a pint glass
    Yeah my proposal was very broad. Clearly they'd have to untangle this a little bit but figuring out the details is their job. Same goes for the people buying up houses and using them for Airbnb. I know there's some people on the board that do that but that's also part of the problem
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  7. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,823
    1,067
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    Volumes have been lower than expected but high enough for my company to likely hit our projected budget for the year. We’re expecting a continuation of good numbers through October. Nov/Dec are tougher months though. A drop in interest rates will help as the slowdown has been in SFH (which are inherently more expensive), not townhouses, condos, and apartments.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  8. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,473
    208
    183
    Aug 9, 2024
    I have as many cats as, one could reasonably presume, the number of times since 2016 that you have cast a ballot in a presidential election for a candidate who did NOT accept help from Russia.

    Not even one.
     
  9. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,272
    1,340
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Ehh.. several of them, but it's clear you don't want to hear about them. You've made up your mind that Harris is the better candidate to lead the country. And I could throw it right back at ya. The litany of Harris lies. Do I not vote for Trump because he wasn't able to keep some of his campaign promises? That standard would keep us all at home every Election Day.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  10. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I tend to agree. I was using Freddie Mac's recent numbers for a "balanced market".
     
  11. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    1. Harris is a train wreck. You are making stuff up. I think two terrible options are terrible and neither seems better than the other to me politically. If Trump delivered on his promises I would at least find him viable politically more so than Kamala. But he does not.

    2. If its several of them, then just name one.

    One.

    Name one of the items I listed that he actually did do.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  12. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    You said they wont build a single home.

    I know they already build many.

    Now you jump to 3 million?

    In other words, you were mistaken?
     
  13. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Just so we are clear, me posting a clear list of Trump's broken policies with very little commentary is...a rant?
     
  14. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,272
    1,340
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    He clearly built some wall on the border. He increased GDP growth from Obama's last year in office, despite the Fed raising interest rates. He killed the individual mandate. He brought economic prosperity to millions with virtually no inflation. He was a great president. Who would you rather have? GWB? Who is your alternative?
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  15. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

    7,181
    1,089
    2,043
    Apr 8, 2007
    Just sell a bunch of FEMA homes to people at a discount
     
  16. ETGator1

    ETGator1 GC Hall of Fame

    15,901
    1,804
    808
    Apr 3, 2007
    Oh my! The Federal Government Construction actually exists. :rolleyes:
     
  17. ETGator1

    ETGator1 GC Hall of Fame

    15,901
    1,804
    808
    Apr 3, 2007
    Absolutely. Also, I was told if I had the decency to bring up a subject to post a link to proof of same. How about it posting links? I'd like to see the evidence on all of those Trump unhinged rants.

    Keeping up, Kamrade Kamala says she will build 3 million homes so take a look at that, think it is posted in this thread.
     
  18. stingbb

    stingbb Premium Member

    4,374
    824
    2,543
    Apr 3, 2007
    Increased new construction housing costs are also a result of the overall out of control inflation that we’ve seen the last few years. Dramatic price hikes are effecting builders and developers, and in turn, they are passing those increases on to the home buyer. Roofing material prices, for example, have increased 20% the last two years and builders are seeing similar increases in other building products.
     
  19. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    12,135
    1,151
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Trump built about 50 miles of wall. And we paid for it. Not Mexico. The Trump wall has also been cut and destroyed by annual monsoon storms.

    As for Trump's economic record, he promised 4% growth and laughed that Obama could only average about 2.5% quarterly growth. Trump cut taxes and increased spending too reach his 4% or higher growth. Know the result? And 2.6% quarterly growth.

    Meanwhile, the deficit soared under Trump. His protectionist policies and tariffs also decimated certain industry segments, such as US soy bean production. We ended up giving soy bean farmers billions in subsidies. Trump also cut legal immigration numbers, and the result was about 1 million less in our workforce. Would've helped post pandemic when shortages, including labor shortages were a major cause of inflation.

    Trump was lucky he inherited a mature economy from Obama. This isn't the case today. Implement these same policies, and as the 15 Nobel Prize Economists say, disaster.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 3
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  20. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Are you ignoring my specific points of reference on purpose here Okee? He lied about those things.

    As for the partial wall, If i hire you to build my house and you just frame it and walk away, you dont get credit for building some of my house.

    He failed. He didnt do what he promised.

    As for who was better...most of the republicans in the primaries would have had the exact same political objectives while actually being decent human beings.

    Sone of you guys need to admit that you just get your kicks from a profane, brash, arrogant jerk. Just own it. Admit it. It isn't about policy. A million republicans have the same policy positions. You guys just think its cool how much of a jerk he is to people you disagree with. There is no other explanation at this point.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1