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“Imane Khelif Wins First-Ever Gold Medal In Freestyle Domestic Violence”

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Aug 1, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    He was obviously talking about individuals with XY chromosome pairs that compete as women, but you knew that. Just more dishonesty on your part. Sorry you picked a horrible battle.
     
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  2. okeechobee

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    Keyword: hate
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    No it isn't, c'mon. And if we came up with some hypothetical system that everyone agreed was fair that allowed trans athletes to compete, some of them would still win, and win convincingly ... that's how sports works. That's my whole problem with the Semenya situation ... is it fair to make a woman take hormones until they get back into 'normal' range too? If we get too deep in the muck about erasing certain advantages of birth in the name of competition ... we also ruin the spirit of sports. But again, literally no one thinks someone should be able to just "become" a woman overnight and be allowed to compete in high level competition.
     
  4. CHFG8R

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    So get your SIMPLE FACTS right. It's not very hard. . . If you bother to try.
     
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  5. CHFG8R

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    Spot on. Why I'm rooting for a MAGA revolution and a Napoleon-style (bellies full of grapeshot) crackdown!!!
     
  6. GratefulGator

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    I've said this before and I will say it again. I support gay and trans folks 100%. I am in awe of their social courage to live their best life!

    However, I feel that people who are genetically anomalous should not be able to compete in female sports as that Y chromosome imparts inherent genetic advantages both metabolic and physical vs a genetic woman (XX).
     
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  7. gator95

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    Not just her. NCAA screwed everyone by not having an even playing field. Should've never gotten that far.
     
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  8. CHFG8R

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    It's absolutely and EXACTLY the same. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is that Phelps is the best ever and Thomas was just a top-1% male swimmer. Either way, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see what was going to happen, especially when this wasn't a full transition. Not only that, but the daily times told everyone involved what would happen.

    Why are you doing this? You can support trans rights AND see this for what it is. It's almost like you're politically/religiously married to this position, that you would somehow be seen as lesser by your liberal peers if you admit the reality here.

    I appreciate the sentiment, but I think you're totally wrong about Thomas. And we have a well-respected international governing body who agrees with that.
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    True. But it was dealt with. So, what are we crying about again?
     
  10. okeechobee

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    Man, why are you this angry? It feels like you have a lot of hate inside you. The only ones who should be angry are the young women who have been cheated due to dudes who want to get undressed in their locker room. That never should have taken place.
     
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  11. rivergator

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    So where does this take us? DNA for all athletes? High school and up? Or what?
     
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  12. CHFG8R

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    I think the issue would be how to get from A (person who might have Y chromosome) to B (testing for that). "She looks like a man" isn't going to pass legal muster, so you'll have to test everyone. I'm not taking a position either way, but that's going to be a pain in the ass, especially if we're applying to all sports.

    But let me throw you a curveball. What about women's gymnastics? Keeping in mind that the events are literally tailored to women's bodies. In that case, Y would be a major disadvantage. This is why I lean to letting the governing bodies handle this as they know their sports best.
     
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  13. CHFG8R

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    We're never getting this answer. It requires actual thought, which they're incapable of.
     
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  14. CHFG8R

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    A ton of it for you traitors. I'll leave it at that. Take it for what it's worth. That wasn't hyperbole. I actually hope that happens.
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    I think any agency or regulatory body who currently require tests for doping can throw a DNA test in there. The cost of a DNA test for the chromosome pairing is really cheap, especially if done in bulk.
     
  16. okeechobee

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    Traitors? Are you on any medication?
     
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  17. gator95

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    Because a male with XY chromosomes won a gold medal in the Olympics. Go read the thread title again if you are confused.
     
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  18. gator95

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    Try decaf sport.
     
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  19. rivergator

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    So you think yes? When should it start?
     
  20. CHFG8R

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    Nope. Thinking perfectly clear here. Time to put the rabble-rousing scum down. Perfect scenario would have far left and MAGA fighting in the streets so it would be a non-partisan crackdown. In lieu of that, Pentagon coup. Honestly, that's the route I prefer the most as the political system is completely bankrupt right now.
     
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