University presidents making national news is pretty rare. During Sasse’s tenure, he made it at least twice, and it was positive. During that same period, Harvard's made it at least twice, and it was sooooo bad, that it cost her her job, AND Harvard, over a Billion dollars. So I reiterate--Sasse’s tenure was not only benign, it was net positive for UF (even if not great) but certainly not disastrous.
How'd you get off my ignore list? Ahhh.... GatorDoh! musta got iced, and you came back under new handle. New brand....same loser crappola. Bye. Again.
He wasnt here long enough for it to be disastrous. But stepping down before a scandal breaks isnt a "net positive" lol. Again, he was invisible most of the time here, so in academic terms his grade is 'I' for incomplete. He wasnt around long enough to be a net positive or negative in any substantive way, but the way it ended certainly wont be remembered positively.
You've always been considering a vote for Trump. It's been pathetically comical and obvious watching your posts over the last six months go from tepid "Never Trump" statements to slowly rationalizing what you were always going to do. But good on you for finally admitting it, I guess.
Nice, I need a therapist and a mind reader. But for real, my wife and I have been arguing, debating the Trump vote for the past month or so. It’s getting interesting in my home on this topic. Trump is an absolute idiot and a massive ass. I argue he’s better than most any libbie simply because he’ll nominate people who likely represent my values. Trump fails for me miserably as a leader though. He’s not the guy I want to represent me, my family or my country. It truly is a shitty spot and I don’t plan on voting at all.
So let me ask this - what has happened to Florida's standing nationwide as an educational institution? Sasse flying a lot might have something to do with that. It isn't that he flew more than Fuchs because if I were President of UF my flying cost would have been zero, but that maybe he flew to other schools. The article never mentions that. Florida ranks 2nd in the SEC in quality of education behind Vandy and ranks 1st in the South. It's almost on par with Ivy League schools at a fifth of the cost. It's funny, had Sasse been a democrat, it would have been a conservative posting this thread and the liberals defending him.
Yeah, his tenure was short lived, but the national attention was like a nation wide commercial that showcased UF as a bastion of common sense, beautifully set up, by the nation's most prestigious institutions going full stupid, in bulk, like lemmings off a cliff, under the invisible hand of woke peer pressure. And amidst that torment of stupidity, Ben Sasse stood firm, reminding the nation, where normal is. Granted, it was a tee ball set up--but half the Ivy's went over the cliff. Our guy, and consequently, our alma mater-was abandoned to man the helm of common sense, and pictured very publicly, doing so. And Sasse further pounced on the opportunity to boast very publicly (ie--very positive--say it with me: *PUBLICITY*) of our nation leading home to Jewish students. Advertised nationally, as a welcoming place for Jews. That kind of publicly is priceless. What's more, I can't help but wonder how much of this is a hit job, due to his public stance with the Jews, in the face of such strong antisemitism, cascading from our radically polluted Left. He did spend lots of money, and certainly among friends and trusted inner circle folk, but if corresponding value and ROI can be demonstrated, then it's not just no harm no foul, it's prudent investing. But the jury is admittedly still out on that count, and Sasse has left his legacy on same, in the hands of his successor by stepping down. But at 17.3 mill, vs the good will purchased in the wake of the very public Ivy league epidemic of idiocy... Net. Positive.
Trump is going to win Florida whether you vote at the top of the ballot or not. It really shouldn't be a tough call since your vote at the top of the ballot isn't going to be decisive in any way. I was going to write in "Free Palestine" if Biden was on the ticket for basically the same reason.
I dont know about that, I think a lot of people looked at Sasse as a Desantis partisan meddling in higher education pick. Maybe it played well with conservatives, elitists and NYT readers who think McKinsey does good work and "college students be too woke these days."
Exccellent stuff RGF. Id just add as an exception, that no one has or would, openly come out to critique Sasse’s public position vis a vis Hamas' invasion of Israel, and the blatant antisemitism championed by Harvard etc. They just try to down play its significance. But deep down inside, underneath the surface... lurks the stealth beast...
UF was already all of those things prior to Sasse, and will be going forward - provided the anti-education right wingers don’t muck things up. Realistically UF benefits from being the only game in town, there are no “elite” private Universities in FL like there are in the northeast or CA. So for top tier students quite often it’s a choice between leaving the state (at high cost) or staying home and enjoying a top tier public at a solid value relative even to other peer “flagship” public Universities. I’d also point out the logical fallacy in assigning a “both sides” to this. What liberal is demanding a politician to run a University? I’d think most would want UF to hire someone with a proven resume at running a similarly sized University and having results. You wouldn’t hire a politician to coach football, not sure why anyone would think that’s a good idea for a University President (unless what they want is a “yes man” for corrupt political interests).
I don't think I ever demanded a politician run a university but if he/she is qualified, sure why not? I don't know Sasse's background before he was a politician so I looked it up. You guys are a bunch of boneheads. If Sasse is an issue, Biden should be banned from stepping on any campus in the US: Unlike the vast majority of Congress over the past 50 years, Sasse actually has experience outside of politics. Definitely has the educational background and he taught at a university and served as President at another university prior to getting hired at UF. I was expecting yet another community organizer or lawyer.
Yeah something tells me they didnt mention Hamas on the Today show. Anyways this really doesnt change my point about Sasse playing well with the kind of people who read the NYT.
Sasse is a smart and well spoken guy no doubt, my take was that as far as political lackeys go.. UF could have done worse. One might have even anticipated a MAGA moron being installed as Prez. Nevertheless he is a politician in trade and had no business in this job in the first place. Hell even that educational background you point to is in… wait for it… politics!!!! Guy majored in govt/political science. PHd Thesis was on the “Rise of Reagan”. He’s a smart enough guy he surely could have done any number of things, yet I guess when deciding on a life path he decided to be a political whore from the word go… I thought you guys hated lifelong politicians???? Now you are trying to justify why this one should occupy a job that ought to be apolitical. Make it make sense.
Exactly. THAT is the experienced educator UF needed. He really earned his bones leading a 1500 student Lutheran college located in a city with a 27000 population.... In Nebraska.
