You guys are killing me. No chance you would think this bif the riles were reversed. Yes the money was the issue, but he was forced. No one objective believes this was an act of nobility.
Are you objective? Biden went down kicking and screaming. This is obvious from his defiance up until the last minute.
There is talk that trumph should bow out and how he could. If he did, I'd be shocked because he doesn't do anything if it isn't for the donald, but I'm sure the repubs are wishing he would. Biden, believed he could win again and we all knew he couldn't. It wasn't until Clooney held back 90 million and other big donors did the same, that he realized the dems were handicapped. He knows that a trumph presidency would do to our country. You just can't let go of this, changing your mind about the orange one?
No. I mentioned objectivity in my first post. Hint: most Democrats are not being objective and neither are most Republicans for that matter. Regardless, there is no evidence that this was anything more than a forcing out by those inside his own party.
What? Is this the only thread you are reading? Not only am I not supporting the orange one, yet again.... I'm also not supporting many of the republican candidates in my own state. Keep up. That isnt enough though. As typical with liberala, anything less than support for your side makes me a trump supporter I guess. Well sorry to tell you. Im not a liberal. Especially not the social anything goes tupe of liberal and will never vote for their policies.
Not sure why you are responding like this. Its sorta known that people on the fringes of politics are not objective, regardless of sides. I'm not accusing you. I was asking you. Huge difference.
Actually, from what I've read, Biden had accepted that it was over a full week before the announcement but wanted some time to get things worked out in the background before he announced. What that is, I don't know (maybe confirming things like the What happens next? Will dropping out cause more or less problems. etc.)
This wasn’t new with Biden wasn’t Reagan deep into Alzheimer’s by the end of his second term. It’s almost impossible to get an incumbent president to not run for a second term. Polk is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Johnson was convinced to drop out too but I can’t remember the actual timing.
First, I do not like being subjected to an argument that anyone that doesn't agree with your opinion is not objective. Each of us has a different fact base and experience to draw from when interpreting the internal motivation of someone's actions. Furthermore, I do not like "most people are not objective" argument to defend the first argument. I also do not like the transition from "most people" to "fringes of politics" when the second argument is challenged. I do like puppies.
Was it though? Trump is now saying he won’t agree to any exactly this. If this was a serious debate both sides would be putting their ideas and plans out to the public. Presidential debates haven’t been real debates since Kennedy Nixon.
This has been debunked. ABC had guidelines on who was eligible to participate. If trump agreed assuming only Biden would participate, he may have made an error. Harris fully qualifies. ABC News Candidate Qualification Requirements for the 2024 Election Presidential Debate Tuesday, Sept. 10 | ABC Updates
Haven’t they had debates with undecided voters in the past. I know people try to game the undecided voters but isn’t that at least in theory the intended audience.
Exactly this I go back and forth from wanting to call trump juvenile with the name calling to senile with his inability to distinguish truth from nonsense.
I personally believe it was a combination of factors....and that both money and yes some nobility played into the decision. We will never truly know how much all the factors at played weighed in. My analogy would be a pitcher on the mound in a crucial game 7 type situation. Manager goes to the mound and that pitcher is gonna say he can finish the game...he's got enough in the tank. Catcher shakes his head no. So do the infielders. Manager takes the ball, pitcher is pissed and heads to dugout throwing his glove. And once he gets to dugout he is pulling for the guy out of the bullpen as hard as anybody on the roster. Did the pitcher want to stay on the mound for ego, because he knew the importance of the situation, because he thought he was the best option, for the glory? All can be true to some extent. But outside influences can have a more impartial view and make a more measured decision
The Reagan thing is a myth. There is footage of him walking to work in LA a few years after leaving the White House. Slipping a bit yes, but nothing like what Biden did. Reagans farewell address in year 8 was 1000 times better than Biden in year 4.
