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Trump proposes more tax cuts - and no way to fund them

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Aug 7, 2024.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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    Except as it pertains to Trump the biggest liar allegations are absolutely true. He is in a class by himself.
     
  2. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

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    But not many MAGA.
     
  3. l_boy

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    People say they are concerned with debt but they don’t understand it and aren’t willing to do anything about it.
     
  4. l_boy

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    One thing they could do is Harris can accuse Trump of raiding social security fund and defending social security - he wants to take your social security away.
     
  5. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

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    There is also that wing of the gop whose idea of addressing the deficit is to eliminate entire federal departments and programs. Pretty much keep defense spending and to hell with everything else. As much as that may appeal to some, it would cost us all a lot more in the long run to get that draconian about it.
     
  6. ATLGATORFAN

    ATLGATORFAN Premium Member

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    As a lifetime fiscal conservative and social libertarian I have wholeheartedly stopped caring about debt and deficit. This has been a political loser for the GOP for at least 2 election cycles as there is no competing with “free”. There is no fiscal responsibility anymore. So if someone suggests cutting my taxes, I don’t care if they are ‘paid for ‘ even though I disagree with that phrase entirely.
     
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  7. l_boy

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    Then you aren’t a fiscal conservative.
     
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  8. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Stop making crap up about loopholes for high earners when it comes to tips.
     
  9. ATLGATORFAN

    ATLGATORFAN Premium Member

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    sure am. Have spent my life living well below my means. As a result our house and cars are paid for. Both kids college funds are fully funded. A central financial
    Principle of which we live and teach our kids is “if you can’t write a check for it, you can’t afford it “. Our family balance sheet has benefited tremendously as a result. I’ve capitulated on this topic years ago. I won’t even argue this in political discussions. If someone wants to cut my taxes im game. I was blessed to get my undergrad and advanced degrees at warrington and fisher and fully comprehend the consequences of fiscal irresponsibility and can plan accordingly. Our annual household income hovers around high 6 figures and we have had many years at 7 and above so yes we are a constant target….so yes I’ll take the tax cut thank you. Run up all the debt and deficit you want and I’ll continue to invest and plan around it and continue to benefit from the predictable results.
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    It seems that some analysts who actually have the credentials to analyze Trump's proposals are also "making up crap" regarding the potential for his proposal on tips to benefit high income taxpayers.
     
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  11. l_boy

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    if you don’t care about fiscal deficits and rather have tax cuts then you aren’t politically conservative. Like you I am an UF accountant and saved our whole lives - that has nothing to do with whether or not I’m politically fiscally conservative.
     
  12. okeechobee

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    LOL, he's still trying to tear you down.

    I could not have said it better. The government's spending problems are not my problem. Nobody asked me if I wanted to pay for Build Back Better.
     
  13. AzCatFan

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    Yeah! Who needs bridges repaired so they won't collapse? Or modernized wastewater and drinking water systems? Not my problem! :rolleyes:
     
  14. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Pure nonsense. Those trying to figure out a broad proposal idea have focused on reality. Not the idea that everyone with means is going try and abuse something…that will not be allowed to be abused if it actually became reality.

    Do you honestly believe Trump will propose a loophole to allow high earners to recognize income as tips? You are one that I know is smarter than this! We disagree. But don’t play the game of the ignorant X/twitter trolls…
     
  15. ATLGATORFAN

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    You can define me however you wish. In my post I said I was a lifetime fiscal conservative and gave you examples of how I have applied that in my life and my family. I’m also not a single issue voter. I made the point that this was political loser for GOP for 2 election cycles because in current sound bite world it’s impossible to compete with free. I continued by saying I also just don’t care about the issue anymore. I know the results of reckless policy and can profit from it. So bacon away and debt and deficit all you wish and label me whatever you want.
     
  16. ATLGATORFAN

    ATLGATORFAN Premium Member

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    you may want to google the federal budget and discover what percentage goes where. Kind of difficult to find money for infrastructure when 4.2T of a 6.3T budget( 66%). go to social security, Medicare, student loans, income security( purposely misleading label). and of course interest

    The Federal Budget in Fiscal Year 2022: An Infographic | Congressional Budget Office
     
  17. altalias

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    I'm fairly certain there is concensus about what should be done. Everyone thinks that someone else needs to pay more taxes and/or spending, that doesn't effect them, should be cut.
     
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