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Dow futures collapsing

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Aug 4, 2024.

  1. jeffbrig

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    I think Universal is dealing with a natural demand shift of their own doing. They're currently building a fourth park, which is supposed to open in 2025. Economy aside, for someone planning a big family vacation to Orlando to hit the Universal parks, it makes a lot more sense to plan than trip for 2025 rather than go right now.
     
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  2. BLING

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    I remember some dude kept insisting “Dow 5000” for several years after Obama’s election, and would get giddy any time there was any sort of pullback or when some company had a round of layoffs.

    I wonder what bridge that guy now lives under. :emoji_joy:
     
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  3. obgator

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  4. surfn1080

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    I asked him that. He said normally they have everything booked up through the year by now. He said it's not even close.

    I also asked if they had started any major firings. He said not many layoffs yet but a lot of decreased hours.
     
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  5. surfn1080

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    haha man that is just crazy. I dont get how families are ok coming to Universal or Disney and paying all that money for just a week at parks.

    But yes like anything with people feeling they have decreased disposable income, they will stop spending on leisure items first.
     
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  6. BLING

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    Considering how much their own prices rose, even if people had the same levels of disposable income, the parks and associated hotels are demanding a greater share of said disposable income.

    I’m sure some of it is higher labor costs, and obviously in FL insurance is through the roof. But still, I doubt their expenses have risen to the same extent as their asking prices.
     
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  7. NavyGator93

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    I'm actually retired and I don't care.
    General trajectory has been mostly thru the roof over my investing lifetime. Yesterday and today are fun swings and maybe a time to move a little money but not a big deal.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Been busy with other things as we get ready to enjoy the end of the week with the kids before our oldest goes back to school Monday.

    I very well might Sell BA Put options this afternoon I don’t mind owning BA under 170 for the long term. And they generally offer great yields on plays like this. Will probably look 2-3 weeks out and go from there…

    It was under 165 but currently under 166…
     
  9. surfn1080

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    Ill see if he is willing to discuss that with me.

    I tend to agree with you. Ill let you know if we talk about it.
     
  10. slayerxing

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    I’m mostly kidding - I’m investing pretty aggressively now because I’m so far away from retirement. I was poking some fun at people calling this a collapse. I mean, there could well be a collapse but they’re mysteriously quiet about it today as the market is up again today.
     
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  11. surfn1080

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    Literally, no one wants to see a collapse. Just people saying, hey, I told you this would cause problems.

    Everyone is affected by a crash in some way. Trump shares in some of this with his spending in 2020 by the way.

    Remember Bill Maher being ok with a crash as long as it meant Trump would lose? Now that is a jack ass.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kn...ts-for-recession-so-that-trump-loses-in-2020/

    You have to love a rich lib actually saying it...
     
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  12. NavyGator93

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    Good call.
     
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  13. obgator

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    lol.. just see the very first post in this thread. People like Okee are giddy about this.
     
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  14. surfn1080

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    Why would he be giddy? Im sure he is losing money like the rest of us.

    Maybe he is just pointing out that bad policies have bad consequences.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Okee really doesn't care about losing money on paper in the short term if he believes that the net result would be the election of his Orange God. Like a number of other supporters of the defeated former president, he gloats every time there is even remotely negative economic news.
     
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  16. NavyGator93

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    Same reason trump worked to kill the immigration bill. While a strong stock market and better border security are wins for the country, if it happens while biden has the watch, maga is against it.
    Party over country.
     
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    But I'm sure Okee started a pro biden thread when the dow hit 40,000 for the first time ever.
     
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    Only losing $$ if he is really in the stock market. Only 60% of Americans are and many only slightly so.
     
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  19. surfn1080

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    Only 60%? My 401k has lost 14k since last week. Now I am 39, so many years from retirement, I am not worried about it. How many Americans do not have that luxury?
     
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  20. surfn1080

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    just curious, what will the bill have done? We already have laws that are not being enforced that would secure the border lol.