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Article: Tyler Miles Talks Strength & Conditioning Numbers

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  1. ETGator

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    By: Nick Marcinko -- July 30, 2024

    Strength and Conditioning coach Tyler Miles met with the media on Tuesday to discuss some of the progress made this offseason. Miles’ program puts an emphasis on tracking progress using numbers, whether that’s max velocity, percentage of body fat, or lifting weights.

    Tyler Miles talks strength and conditioning numbers | GatorCountry.com
     
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  2. fox

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    Sounds like he's good at his job and the players have bought in.
     
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    This is encouraging, so much actual measurable progress made!:)
     
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    The fat-decrease/muscle-gained numbers don't add up to the aggregate team-weight difference between the spring roster and the fall roster (on UF's website). (Yes, I put them all in a spreadsheet and kept it reference.)

    This article quotes Miles as saying "we gained 575 lbs of muscle and lost 475 lbs of fat." That's an aggreate increase of 100lbs. And in an article just a few weeks ago, CBN said they had gained 500 lbs of muscle and lost 500 lbs of fat: a net gain/loss of 0 lbs. But comparing weights on the spring roster to the fall roster shows a team-aggregate decrease of 82 lbs. (55 players gained an aggregate of 215 lbs, and 42 lost an aggregate of 297 lbs).

    I know these are just fluff preseason articles, but these easily disprovable statements don't inspire my confidence any more than the vague-generality (we've got great culture!) statements do.

    For those wondering about the "notable" weight changes mentioned in an earlier article: Dez Watson's roster weight is 2 lbs more than the article, Christian Williams is up 18 lbs from the article (can that be correct?), Damieon George is down an additional 3 lbs, Waites is up 2 lbs, Boireau is down an additional 7 lbs, and Cam Jackson is down an additional 13 pounds.
     
  5. tommyvee

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    You’re only looking at weight gain/loss and not accounting for body fat percentage.
     
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    The coaches didn't reference body fat percentage either - only weight gain/loss.

    What's your point?
     
  7. tommyvee

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    My point is you don’t have enough data. A player can gain muscle and lose fat and not move the needle on the scale.
     
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    Actually, it's the article that doesn't have enough data. CBN and Miles are the ones who decided to use weight gain/loss as their metric - not me. Like you, I think that's kinda' irrelevant - which is just another indicator (to me) about these coaches that is worrisome.

    And, I also agree with you on this: at some point, weight is weight. And their numbers don't even add up. The whole thing is just stupid.
     
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    I don’t think we are agreeing. Muscle is good weight, fat is bad weight. I’m sure our strength coaches know how much muscle weight our players has gained in detail. They can’t go into the metrics of every single player during a presser. The roster listed weights are kinda arbitrary.
     
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    Muscle is good weight, fat is bad weight.

    Who knew?!? No wonder I'm not a football coach.