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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    We have kompromat..Best kind, beautiful kind, we don't bribe..
    Silly komrad
    Americans ready to fight each other, no trust in courts or elections, we won already and you're too vain to know it..
     
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  2. slayerxing

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    I said attaboy on Abraham what else do you want? Also why wouldn’t he send Jared he’s run point on a lot of his major middle east stuff 'Don't talk about history': how Jared Kushner crafted his Middle East 'peace' plan Trump has tossed around the idea of annexation before. Long term occupation isn’t all that different. I didn’t say he will do - I said something like annexation. Jesus you’re so defensive and sensitive lol.

    Edit - if you want to continue arguing about the middle east let's take it to another thread. If you want to connect it back to Ukraine that's fine.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Orban enrages the war pigs.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    What happens when you sign on to become a U.S. proxy …

     
  5. chemgator

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    You have to live in a fantasy world to discuss the ignoramus Trump and his foreign policy delusions. Is Trump still planning on buying Greenland? Maybe if he adds a few beads and knick-knacks to the pot, the simple natives of Greenland might take it. (If that doesn't work, we can offer some horse pills and bleach to keep them safe from Covid.) Then we can drill, baby, drill. Amirite?

    The hilarious (and yet yugely tragic) thing about Trump is that he represents the ignorance of his followers . . . perfectly. Can I get an amen, Okey-dokee? Are you on board with that?
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    LOL at the notion Trump’s a friend of Russia. If he gets elected he’ll do two things …

    He’ll tell Zelensky to stop fighting and he’ll get back the four oblasts but Russia gets to keep Crimea.

    Then he’ll tell Putin the same and Putin will tell Orange Man to pound sand in which case Trump will flood Ukraine with weapons.

    And then he’ll go to the American people and say, “Hey, I tried.”
     
  7. 92gator

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    ...just confirming not a damn thing has changed, and that very scary Hitler = Putin's Russian juggernaut is still stuck in the Ukrainian mud about half the width of the Florida peninsula, Ukraine's population continues to steadily decline, and all the oligarchs on both sides of the border are continuing to live PHAT...

    ...going on like 2 years, right?

    And we're still supposed to be shitting our britches over that same very scary uber doober lethal Russian fighting force?

    (...yawn...wake me up when something changes...).
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    some brave people died today fighting for their freedom, some died being sent to a massacre under false pretense or sense of patriotic duty, some innocent civilians died today trying to live their lives

    all to satisfy the ego of a madman in charge of Russia and supporting the current pub candidate

    sleep well
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    It’s certainly possible that Biden’s plan all along was to inflict a high cost on the Russian military, while full well knowing it was unlikely Ukraine would ever be able to liberate the Donbas and Crimea. IOW, I’ll give you this sliver of territory but it’s going to come at a high human and equipment cost. The issue with that plan is that it caused Russia to supercharge their war production efforts and now they are building out an apparatus to prosecute a wider scale conflict in the future.

    As beneficial as it is for the U.S. to be able to test some of our weapon systems in the field of real war, without sacrificing American soldiers, it’s similarly beneficial for Russia to not only test their weapons, but also to transform their economy and galvanize their war production. Putin couldn’t care less about losing a few hundred thousand soldiers if he gets all of that plus the Donbas and Crimea. 300,000 deaths is a statistic….. -Stalin
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    Russia is bogging down due to Ukraine losing half its population to either death or flight.

    Russia slogging around, aimlessly, in an increasingly difficult quest for people to shoot at.
     
  11. ursidman

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    What would a defeated Russia look like? An assessment from Timothy Snyder , a historian, who wrote the definitive book on Russia/Ukraine/Germany (1930-40’s) : Bloodlands. Can recommend.

     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Biden and Europe want to keep Russia busy while they arm up - and prepare their populaces for conscription - so as to put Russia out of commission for good sometime over the next 3 to 5 years.

    Russia knows this, which is why it’s grinding down Ukraine, slowly but slowly, so as to minimize troop losses as it grows its human strength and it’s military-industrial complex goes from strength to strength.
     
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    Small wonder there are people who believe the war began Feb 2022 …

     
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  15. chemgator

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    The only war pig these days is Putin, and I have not heard that Orban's fawning over him has caused Putin to be enraged.

    I'm gonna have to call this: a lie.
     
  16. G8trGr8t

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    Massive fire breaks out at missile electronics plant in Yekaterinburg (msn.com)

    Alarge-scale fire broke out in Yekaterinburg, Russia, at the Scientific and Production Association of Automation. Among other things, this company produces electronics for missiles, according to Russian media.

    Scientific and Production Association of Automation caught fire today, on July 30. The company manufactures control systems for space rockets.
     
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  18. chemgator

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    And the U.S. defense spending begins . . .

    ‘Not prepared’: Congressional panel calls for huge defense buildup

     
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    From the who’s cheering the proxy war to the last dead Ukrainian.

    Fact Check: War Pig
     
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  20. chemgator

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    The F-16's have started flying over Ukraine. (Finally!) The first missions will be defensive in nature, until Ukraine has enough planes and trained pilots to fly offensive missions. The big question is what versions of the missiles will they get. An older version of the AIM-120 missile goes 20 miles, but a newer version goes 100 miles.

    F-16 fighter jets finally fly in Ukraine in major boost for Kyiv

    Here's what American air-to-air missiles can do for Ukraine's new F-16s against the Russians

     
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