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PCE Increases Modestly in June

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Jul 26, 2024.

  1. ETGator1

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    The Feds go to index ticked up slightly in June:

    Fed's go-to inflation gauge confirms mild price increases in June (axios.com)

    The PCE edged up .1% while the core PCE, minus food and energy, went up .2%. It's going the wrong way for the Fed to cut interest rates in September.

    The Federal Reserve's preferred inflation index showed prices increased at a moderate pace last month.

    By the numbers: The personal consumption expenditures index—the inflation gauge watched most closely by Fed officials—rose 0.1% in June after a flat reading the prior month, the Commerce Department said on Friday.

    • Excluding food and energy, the core measure rose 0.2%, a tick faster than in May.
    • From the same month a year ago, PCE rose 2.5% in June compared to May's 2.6%. Core PCE held at 2.6%.
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    Nice attempt at spin… but…

    going from 2.6 last month to 2.5 this month is going down, and moving in the right direction….

    A 0.1% monthly tick up equates to an inflation rate of less than 2% annualized, so that is definitely encouraging news for a rate cut…
     
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  3. WarDamnGator

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    ET gave me the disagree bacon… lol… but even his own link says the Fed is still expected to signal a September rate cut at their next meeting…. Dude is clueless….
     
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  4. ETGator1

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    Suggest you point that out to Axios as you are evidently smarter than they are.....
     
  5. WarDamnGator

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    … your own link says a September rate cut is still the expectation. You just don’t understand what you are reading. I’m trying to help, here, you are welcome.
     
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  6. WarDamnGator

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    If you are confused about how good this report is… the stock market is up 700 points today…


    “Friday’s moves stem from a combination of oversold sentiment, a stronger-than-expected GDP report Thursday and the view that the Federal Reserve will begin cutting rates due to economic resilience, said CFRA Research’s Sam Stovall.

    Today’s benign PCE report helped talk the market off the ledge,” he added. “With this pullback, the great rotation lives on and breadth continues to be on our side.”

    Fed’s key inflation gauge rose 2.5% in June from a year ago, easing path to rate cut
     
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  7. CHFG8R

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    I love it. We sit here and whine about single points when the rest of the world is at 8-100%. Yeah, this is totally a domestic issue. LOL!
     
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  8. citygator

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    Okee and ET are in a race to see who can self-own themselves the most with their own threads.
     
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  9. WarDamnGator

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    Oh look … you also made changes to the snip you quoted….

    Their full opening sentence is…

    “The Federal Reserve's preferred inflation index showed prices increased at a moderate pace last month — the latest indication that America's inflation crisis is nearing its end.”

     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    And yet the Dow is currently up 773 points although the may be the result of the latest presidential polls rather than economic data.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    It's been a rough couple of days for him. First, the Real GDP came in at 2.8% due to increased consumer spending and business investment with a drop in quarterly inflation to 2.9%. Then PCE drops to 2.5% causing markets to shoot up. He needs some hope to hang onto here.
     
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  12. BigCypressGator1981

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    They’ll somehow both lose.
     
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  13. cluckugator

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    I’d say that the fed is almost guaranteed to cut rates IF reports like this keep coming in. I’m actually shocked the markets are not up more. The GDP growth (across numerous categories) plus very likely chance for a rate cut is great news for equities.

    The only reason I am a little bearish is valuations are so lofty across the board. You can’t point a finger at the US’ handling of fiscal or monetary policy during this period without looking… Nevermind.
     
  14. ETGator1

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    Opinions are like assholes. That's why I presented just the facts.

    The Fed raised rates 7 times as Trump's CPI hit 2.4%. To lower rates at this point would be blatantly political as the last CPI was 3.0%. Even the 3.0% had the 1,000,000 gallons of gasoline released into the summer driving market that lowered inflation more than it would have been without the release. I think the bang for that release has already been used up.

    There won't be a rate cut in September without significant infighting among the Fed Reserve Governors. However, it really doesn't matter. The inflation increases even though less are on top of the high Bidenflation that peaked at much higher levels before coming down slowly to get back into the ballpark with the Feds 2.0% target. This is why the people will vote against the democrats. They see inflation from the time Biden entered office. They know their lives have been worse off under Biden.

    Lowering rates in this healthy economy will only lead to higher inflation again and quickly. I don't see the Feds lowering now that the end is in sight and accompanied by a soft landing the Feds engineered. The US is likely close to its new equilibrium insofar as rates are concerned, not going up or down much if at all.
     
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  15. ETGator1

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    Irrational exuberance.
     
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  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    I can’t imagine how the OP handles actually bad economic news.
     
  17. ETGator1

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    Pretty well since it has been nothing but bad for Biden's entire term.
     
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    Fed’s key inflation gauge rose 2.5% in June from a year ago, easing path to rate cut

    Goods prices fell 0.2% on the month while services increased 0.2%. Housing-related prices in June rose 0.3%, a slight deceleration from the 0.4% increase in each of the last three months and the smallest monthly gain going back at least to January 2023.



    Again, housing prices are still pushing the measures upwards and are a lagging indicator.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    You are back to predicting markets again?
     
  20. ETGator1

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    Yes, kind of. Rate decrease after rate decrease has been predicted or called for and every time the market goes up. The problem is, there has not been even 1 rate reduction which is why I said irrational exuberance. Sometimes people do stupid things with their money.

    My prediction is actually on interest rates which I have been saying since late last fall aren't going down until the CPI gets down and stays down for enough time to know inflation has been broken. This applies to September 2024. I don't see a rate cut. In fact, inflation may have a slight uptick as the 1,000,000 gallons of gasoline release has likely run its course. The GDP is strong, unemployment is low, and inflation is still well above the Fed's 2.0% target. Why would the Feds cut into this unless it is a purely political decision which would be too little too late by September and especially so as it would start inflation on the rise again. Inflation and the southern border are on the top of everybody's list who will be voting against the democratic ticket.

    If you take the stock market from January 2021 to now, it has not been all that impressive. Trump did better in his time in office and that included a covid year.
     
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