How soon before Harris gets replaced?

Cant be. This board was just telling us how moderate Kam is.

 

Right. In the way that you likely do. He is hardly pro-lire in the way I would describe it.

 

I don’t think anyone who was remotely inclined to vote for Hillary in the first place truly cared about how she routed and stored work emails - it was mostly just an excuse for people who already hated Hillary to yell about how she should be in jail (not entirely dissimilar to the now-dismissed Trump docs case in that regard).

She lost because a substantial portion of the American population can’t stand Hillary Clinton, either because they saw her as power hungry, because they thought she was fake (her bottle of hot sauce when talking to black voters for example), because a lot of voters dislike “angry yelling woman” (whether that is a result of voter misogyny or not, it’s undoubtedly a real effect), or whatever other reasons they may have individually had. And Kamala seems to have many of the same weaknesses - her attempted 2020 run, and much of her polling as VP, suggests that the more voters are exposed to Kamala Harris, the less they like her.

 

I’m convinced the first female POTUS will inevitably be a Republican. Too many Democrat and Independent men look at a Kamala or Hillary type figure and say “F no”.

 

I'm pro-choice, not pro-life.

 

Difference is that he can't pretend to be a moderate anymore. We all saw him as President.

 

RFK Jr gonna be nominated, that Kennedy $$$$

 

A few big issues with what you are saying here:

1. Hillary Clinton's investigation helped to formalize the pre-existing brand around Clinton and hardened opinions amongst people who were turned off by Trump but were historically Republican. The other thing that worked? 20 years of tabloid nonsense. There is a reason that the same folks bought that she was dying (amazingly, she still seems quite healthy 8 years later). Heck, these tabloids convinced a group of people that she regularly went around and murdered people. Qanon and how she was literally running human trafficking rings was well seeded by 25 years of the tabloids in the grocery stores and their low education readers. You can say that those folks didn't vote Democratic, but a fair number of them were the lower education, white voters that shifted towards Trump. A lot of them were historic Democratic voters or, at least, not historically reliable Republican voters.

Harris has no such history and is much more of a blank page from a branding standpoint.

2. Harris doesn't have the Bernie issue to deal with. Hillary had to get her own voters out. I doubt that is as big of an issue for Harris.

3. The Trump campaign already showed their cards a bit. Nearly the first thing out of the campaign was to set up backing out of the debate. Not the type of thing that you do with a likeable candidate going against a less likeable candidate. You want them on the stage next to each other, in that situation. And yet? They don't seem to want them next to each other.

4. The Donald Trump of 2024 is not the Donald Trump of 2016. He is still an embarrassing mess, but he has gotten even less able to keep a train of thought. One of the reasons that Democrats flipped out about the first debate? How badly Trump was performing and how unable Biden was to show it. See the prior point. The Trump campaign saw it too (and were worried further by the two hours of rambling last week).

5. The electorate of 2024 is not the electorate of 2016. Not a complete revolution on the topic of gender, but the slow passage of time and mortality hasn't been good to the argument that somebody can't be President because they are a woman.

 

I called it 20 minutes into the debate that Biden would not run against Trump. I’m calling it now that Harris will get the full DNC backing and will be the option other than Trump. Obama will make a big splash endorsing her at the perfect moment. Hillary and Bill have already endorsed her.

The whole Prosecutor versus Felon thing won’t matter a bit to the rust belt. They don’t trust San Francisco prosecutors anymore than New York billionaires (if Trump still is one).

It will be fascinating to watch.

 

Eastman is trying to start birtherism. Strange coincidence that it is always minority candidates that they think aren't eligible. *Shrug*

 

That was then and this is now and by the way Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren all polled much better in Iowa than did Joe Biden in 2020.

 

Soon …

 

Dems already sharpening their knives ?

Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett Reveals Democratic Push Against Kamala Harris

 

May have been true if the Republicans were willing to nominate a Nikki Haley or a Condi Rice. They just rejected the former and the latter has expressed no interest in running for the nomination in today's MAGA Republican Party.

 

Trump sucks all the air out of the room. So much so that, for both Republicans and Democrats, the election has been all about him.

 

trump has a unique affliction of being for and against an issue simultaneously so he can be nailed on the flip or the flop.

 

The article was based on speculation by one member of Congress. It also noted that Pelosi hadn't endorsed Harris. Not the case anymore and by the end of the week every other prominent Democratic politician will have endorsed Harris.
Nancy Pelosi endorses Kamala Harris: ‘I have full confidence that she will lead us to victory’

 

Gretchen Whitmer on board as campaign co-chair