Pick ‘em: Trump VP — JD Vance Discussion

Marriage IS the problem. People change over time. Bad circumstances and drugs can turn anyone into a violent asshole. Bad people lie about who they are until they have you trapped. Nobody should have to go begging the state to cut someone out of their lives who wants to harm them.

 

The bourgeois family, the root of all fascism and social dysfunction. At least, that's what I gather from watching Michael Haneke movies.

 

I agree it was poor wording. His main point was that children of divorce are more greatly affected by the divorce, and not in a good way, than their parents are. And I agree with him.

 

That's an amazing reply because I honestly have no clue if it's serious or not and it's pretty legit either way.

 

Abuse takes many forms. Bad marriages are bad for children, too.

 

Of course they are. But there are marriages where two grown ups just cant be grown ups and figure out a way to do the right thing for the kids.

Regardless. This is all deflection from the fact that he never said women should stay in violent marriages.

 

Trump is a forgiven man. Come and taste of his forgiveness. He’ll accept your vote in November. He want even insist you have to tell anybody.

 

Since this was a Pick'Em it seems fair to recognize the thread "winner" with the earliest correct pick.

 

I guess you missed the part where Karl Rove endorsed Burgrum. Kiss of death. No thanks.

 

Maybe in the moment, but they are also engaging in fantasy thinking. They need help to get through it, but they'll understand later when they're old enough to know that all the king's horses.

 

He said exactly that

 

Yeah I don’t know if that’s accurate. Something traumatic like that happening as a child during formative years can forever change who that child grows up to be.

 

Lol. No he didnt. Even people who are on the total opposite side politically have pointed that out in this thread.

Show me where he said "exactly that".

 

This is exactly what Vance is saying in my opinion.

Him saying it is good for the adults is the opposite of saying that a woman should stay in the violent relationship. He is just adding the obvious point that a child will be hurt by the damaged family.

 

Right here

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...s/news-story/d3c7263e32d7a6fe4b4fe92cf10f6839

This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that like, ‘well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term,” he said, while reflecting on his own grandparents’ “incredibly chaotic marriage”.

Interestingly, this is also the stance of a lot of fundamentalist/evangelical churches.

Submission.