Talent alone doesn't explain Florida Football's struggles over the past decade

Can we not give that guy any attention please? Otherwise I agree

 

I'm not exactly a controversial poster, or a trouble maker. But if you say so.
*Good day

 

Those guys you mention were clearly the backbone of 08, 06 not so much.

 

I get it, it can be maddening that a school with the location and resources that UF has to be not be a stronger program on a more consistent basis. Bad hires, the CFB landscape shifting beneath our feet, perhaps the admin can't decide if we really want to compete for titles or be relegated to an afterthought. We all want the Gators to win, to play great football, and at least compete for some hardware. At the same time are we willing to sell our souls for hardware? If we can CBN, who do we bring in? and how does that coach get us back to where we want to be? I don't pretend to have the answers. I have been a Gator fan for as long as I have known what football was. I'll be a Gator until I die. We can do better than this. GO GATORS!

 

Desperate times, desperate measures. It’s CAW time.

 

Without Tebow and Harvin, and to a lesser extent Brandon James, we don't win the natty in 2006. Not the backbone of the team, but key contributors.

 

Classy reply. Really

 

...and hopefully we can rebound sooner than later. You did ask the right questions about moving forward if BN flops. Those answers will begin to come into focus by the evening of 8/31.

 

Basically. these five teams did not have a revolving door for head coaches like UF did the past twelve years. Not only that there were very few losing seasons.

I believe the difference between UF and those five schools had Stability. Stability in: good coaches being hired, good recruiting, keeping and developing players.

I gave you post a "Informative" rating. However (and I am surprised) that you did not refer to the coaching changes that occurred in the past ten years. I am sure this was an oversight.

Washington Huskies in the prior ten years are 87 wins and 38 loses. Yes they did have three coaching changes in the period. However, the program stayed in good shape.

Utah Has had the same coach since 2004 and has 241 wins and 161 loses. Also just one losing season in the past ten years.

Oklahoma State Has had the same coach since 2005. He only has one losing season and that was in 2005. Overall, the program has not floundered.

Iowa Hawk Eyes I am not sure if this was the Iowa you were referring to. Anyway, this Iowa has had the same coach since 1999. His last losing season was in 2012. The other Iowa team (Cyclones) has had the same coach since 2016, and only two losing seasons (2016 and 2022).

Wisconsin Has had three coaches in the past ten years and only one losing season.

 

I agree that luck is a requirement. The secret to luck is to put yourself to be in the position to get lucky. I too was amazed at how many years these coaches have had with their current teams.

As for strength of schedule, I agree with you. The ACC and the former Big Ten and Pac Ten, and ACC conferences do have the strength within and outside of their conferences.

As for UF, the lack of stability was the root of the problems of the past ten seasons. But it is fair to include the strength of schedules. That item is a double blade sword.

 

Meyer picked up the baton at Florida and osu and ran with it. Great coach no doubt, but he didn’t build anything, he started at both schools with elite talent unlike what’s going on now. No idea if Napier can win but it’s not even similar,

 

I don't know Wanne. It's true Meyer inherited more talent at UF than Napier. But Meyer built on it and recruited extremely well. He also implemented something Napier has not- hired a great staff. How a HC manages a program and what he demands from assistants is extremely important. Coaches that hire beneath their own abilities fail. Some HCs can turn a program around almost immediately. Ours has, for whatever reasons, been slower than others.

 

Has lack of stability really been the problem or was it the hires? It's not as if our previous staffs were good. Okay? Yes, but not great HCs and if they were good, one of the three would likely still be here or would have been longer. They were all fired because they could not get results and had generally poor staffs.

 

I think that’s exactly what I just said

 

You're not saying you believe Napier would have had similar success had he inherited UF or OSU rosters?

 

You are way off !!! Meyer did build it and you probably should be thankful that he laid 2 Nattys at your stinky feet ! Never would have gotten those without him.

 

Being a Gator for a long time you know our heritage is what it is . A few years of greatness but generally an average to a bit above . It’s who we are . With Tex and Oklahoma comin in we will have a very difficult chore in getting to the top 5 in the SEC .

 

Well, I think every gator should read this article, it is sobering- We have sure landed some awful coaches since coach Meyer.
Culture Shock, Part I: inside the Florida Gators' implosion under Dan Mullen | In All Kinds of Weather

 

For sure. In over their heads.

Napier is putting it all together and if he can't get the wins the table will be set for an elite coach with championship resume.