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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Biden could be comotose in a cot and I would still vote for him over the Facist.
     
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  3. Gatorhead

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    Used to be they would take you into an almost dark room, strap you into a single wooden chair.
    One KGB would start talking while a second walks up from behind and shoots you in the back of the head.
    If I recall correctly the weapon of choice was the Russian version of the 22.

    I guess they want to save ammo for Ukraine, as you mention, a free fall off a high balcony seems to be the method
    of choice lately.

    Is this not correct Duggar?
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Trump supporters and Biden supporters cults of a different kind …

     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Could be, but still not running neck-and-neck with the Clinton List.
     
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    According to John Helmer (link above) over 50% of Russians support taking the whole of Ukraine.
     
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    Maybe the Chi-Coms figured out the NK were stealing tech secrets…
     
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    Let the Falcons fly, and let the Felons fall where they may. (Not likely, since the Russians are afraid to field their Felons for fear of fortuitous failure.)
     
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    too much unemployment to keep the NK labor there
     
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    As a Putin bot, I just don’t want the U.S. to deploy the venerable F-22 to Ukraine. It can shoot down a weather balloon and it only takes two tries.
     
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    Day 815 of how them sanctions working out …

     
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    Russia cruise missiles on the way to destroy another children’s hospital …

     
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    Reports that Ukraine is reverse engineering washing machines from the wreckage of Russian missiles.
     
  16. G8trGr8t

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    This is sad. Referee should call it
     
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    they desperately need them, hopefully Ukraine initially slow-rolls them. it would be awful PR if they get knocked out the first few days. Especially for future deliveries.

    F16s can help with air defense if nothing else. Expensive use of them but better that than Russia blowing up children’s hospitals.
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    Russia pushing the boundaries

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/us-germany-foiled-russian-assassination-plot/index.html

    [COLOR=var(--style-type-primary-1-highest)]US intelligence discovered earlier this year that the Russian government planned to assassinate the chief executive of a powerful German arms manufacturer that has been producing artillery shells and military vehicles for [COLOR=var(--theme-paragraph__link-color)]Ukraine[/COLOR], according to five US and western officials familiar with the episode.

    The plot was one of a series of Russian plans to assassinate defense industry executives across Europe who were supporting Ukraine’s war effort, these sources said. The plan to kill Armin Papperger, a white-haired goliath who has led the German manufacturing charge in support of Kyiv, was the most mature.
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    The series of plots, not previously reported, helps explain the increasingly strident warnings from NATO officials about the seriousness of the sabotage campaign — one that some senior officials believe risks crossing the threshold into armed conflict in eastern Europe
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    We’re seeing sabotage, we’re seeing assassination plots, we’re seeing arson. We’re seeing things that have a cost in human lives,” a senior NATO official told reporters on Tuesday. “I believe very much that we’re seeing a campaign of covert sabotage activities from Russia that have strategic consequences.”
     
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    If they manage to succeed with one of these and the aggrieved party can pin the rose on Russia, then that country should immediately call for an Article IV conference and request collective punitive measures.
     
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    Absurd, as usual. For the following reasons:

    1) Ukraine has been playing defense almost the entire time, with the exception of a few weeks last year. Defenders almost always lose fewer people than invaders, unless the invader can overrun the defenders and send them running in a panic, which Russia has certainly not done yet.

    2) Ukraine has more accurate weapons than Russia, from the HIMARS to 155mm artillery to ATACMs and other weapons. It's not even close. One of Russia's bigger problems is the number of bombs it has dropped on its own territory. A highly accurate and capable military does not do that. Russian drones have dropped grenades on their own soldiers, just to see which way they would run.

    3) Russia has several times sent people in "meat waves" to sacrifice a few so that others can try to pinpoint where the firing came from. That's just asking for casualties, and lots of them. That has happened multiple times throughout the war, and seems to be a default tactic when Russia cannot take a city fast enough. Bahkmut and Avdiivka were both attacked this way.

    4) Ukraine has more capable and more disciplined soldiers. Russia lost a large percentage of its special forces during the opening weeks of the war, and has relied heavily on untrained conscripts who are busy trying to figure out where to get functional body armor (not the paint ball kind) and other equipment. Russia is using a lot of troops from the far-flung regions of Russia, and these troops don't always get along, communicate well, or function as a single team. All the Ukraine soldiers seem to be on the same team with the same goals. Ukraine's troops are also more motivated--they aren't trying to win a war for some bozo politician in Moscow, they are trying to free their country.
     
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