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Rural Republicans Are Fighting To Save Their Public Schools

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Jul 2, 2024.

  1. QGator2414

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    I disagree. I understand what you are trying to say. But you are not the person where barriers being removed matter. And we need to do everything possible to remove barriers for those that don’t have the means like you…
     
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    There are good and bad teachers in both public and private. As in any industry. I ran into one of the best last week at Publix. Taught my oldest in 5th grade. She deserves a 6 figure salary plus all the amazing benefits. Almost left our younger two in Public for elementary at the time knowing my middle would have been guaranteed an elite teacher (her likely but the other gifted 5th grade teacher was amazing as well/both 4th grade gifted teachers were amazing). But my youngest and where the school was headed…we moved them to private. While most at the private are great. There is a new teacher this year my youngest had that is still learning. She is young. So hopefully she learns from things likely taught but not how to handle reality…
     
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  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Those who would benefit by using vouchers and aren’t, should be educated on why they should use them. They probably are unaware or just do not value education. Believe it or not, there are so many ignorant parents who couldn’t care less about their child’s school experience.
    Also, This article coming mostly from liberal public school lovers.
    Almost every libbie I’ve ever sat down and talked to on the subject love them some public school.
    Government always knows best for the libbies I guess.
     
  4. gatordavisl

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    Or they don't have the means of transportation to get to another school (privates don't bus & charters might, but districts are not required to bus outside the zone). As for the liberal writing the article, Diane Ravitch is one of the best-informed Americans when it comes to our systems of education. BTW, she served as Deputy Secretary of Education under papa Bush, so drop the libbie crap. The next substantive, evidence-based post you make on education will be the first.
     
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  5. gatorjo

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    Some things are better, as a whole, well.....socialized.

    And don't get triggered by that scary buzz word unless you favor a private military and privatized police forces.

    Those fortunate enough to have means to pay for a superior private education should feel free to do so.*


    * This is also a good time to note that, like charter schools, not all private schools are superior.
     
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  6. swampbabe

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    What folks don’t understand is that this voucher scheme is working EXACTLY as intended. It was never meant to actually help low income students. The 7K is not enough to really make dent in the cost of tuition in a quality private school. A decent school will cost at least twice that amount and probably more, not counting transportation, uniforms, and other fees. It is welfare for upper income folks, period.

    The other voucher option is a low quality school with no accountability that will be no better and more than likely worse than the public school they left. A grifter’s paradise.
     
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  7. gatordavisl

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    Worse than that, it's a political/financial attack on public schools.
     
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  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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    lol…I can see it’s personal for you. Probably because your job and the public school system is like “your baby”.
    Sorry that my opinion hurts your feelings. There are real children involved in all of this.
    I’m not using my kids as pawns so your public schools can get all my tax dollars.
    Truth hurts Davis.
    Some public schools are garbage and informed parents will do almost anything to avoid them.
     
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  9. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Many govt schools deserve abandonment.
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    You never disappoint. Thanks for proving me right.

     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Wow, cool.
    Because you said so.
    Got it.
     
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  12. gatordavisl

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    This book will be an interesting read.

    The Education Wars | The New Press

    Culture wars have engulfed our schools. Extremist groups are seeking to ban books, limit what educators can teach, and threaten the very foundations of public education. What’s behind these efforts? Why are our schools suddenly so vulnerable? And how can the millions of Americans who love their public schools fight back? In this concise, hard-hitting guide, journalist Jennifer C. Berkshire and education scholar Jack Schneider answer these questions and chart a way forward.

    The Education Wars explains the sudden obsession with race and gender in schools, as well as the ascendancy of book-banning efforts. It offers a clear analysis of school vouchers and the impact they’ll have on school finances. It deciphers the movement for “parents’ rights,” explaining the rights that students and taxpayers also have. And it reveals how the ostensible pursuit of “religious freedom” opens the door to discrimination against vulnerable children.