Rankings by Blue Chip Recruit Ratio

I’d like to see the percentage of our that are in year one or two versus years three and four and five

 

I remember we had about a 67% recently and that was good enough for about 6th or 7th at the time, I believe.

 

Thank you Ahab!

 

Probably less so for TX, but the 6 to 16 are struggling to get into that top tier of talent. FSU has really not capitalized on the past two years. Draining the portal has really hurt their high school recruiting.

 

I think your last sentence really sums up the whole blue chip ratio = success argument. While FSU HS recruiting has been down in recent years it hasn’t hurt their results. Getting an experienced 2-3 year starter from a smaller school in the transfer portal, who may have been a 3-star, isn’t a bad thing. Though, if you rely too much on that method, of adding talent to your team, it can be a problem over time.

I just think the old scale of evaluating team talent based solely on blue chip ratio, in determining a teams future success, is antiquated now. With the portal, it has kind of muddied the waters. It will take a few years before we can have a good idea on how it works with the combination of both.

 

That percentage is getting higher for teams at the top. Now we need to get into the high 70's percentile just to compete, it seems.

 

Rick - Under the new realities, recruiting seems to be, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I think, generally speaking, most services have
around 30 players that make the "5 Star" ranking. Go look at the top 5 teams in recruiting. Maybe even the top 3 - what do they have? 50% of those kids? maybe even a higher %?

Interestingly, UGA / Kirby, seemed to peak at just the right time, to take full advantage of the new rules. Texas and Oregon seem to be thriving as well.
Michigan? - Lets see what happens post Harbaugh.

BAMA, OSU, Clemson, seemed to have residency in the playoffs for about 10 years.

Point being, despite all these recent changes, IMO, the only significant difference, in terms of being a top program, is the powers at be, expanded the
playoffs to 12, (soon to be 14) to give other programs hope and of course to make more money. I wonder if the powers at be saw that the 4 team
playoff system seemed to house three of the same teams every year with the 4th entry revolving among a very select few programs. (in other words it was getting "stale" with only 4, and usually mostly the same teams.)

But in terms of the power dynamic, in terms of the concentration of talent, and resources, it seems like business as usual to me. A few programs
may have the ability to enter the "exclusive club" - UF being one of those, but like I posted, a few names may change but I see little improvement
with balance, for non elite programs, across the board.

The SEC is peculiar because the SEC is heavy with programs that (could) potentially crack into the exclusive zone. UF, UT, LSU, TAMU, OLE MISS?, Mizzou? Oklahoma. I do not think the Big 10 (or whatever they are now) is nearly as competitive top to bottom, even with the new additions.

Anyway, just some dog days of summer posting from a Gator that is ready for Aug 31 to get here!

 

We need to get more blue chips and they need to be actually experienced active players, not just holding roster spots at 18-19 years old. Lagway won’t win us a ton of games this year.

 

Also, if you are not a blue chip, but start to perform like one, you will be on one of the high paying teams soon. In soccer it is called buying players, but you have to at least compensate the prior team for developing the player.

 

Same tired excuses. How about our staff win with what they have assembled? Win 8 games with this roster then we can believe that with another level up on talent and experience we get to 10. Win 6 with this roster and what excuses remain?

 

Yes... this is true, but just like our high schoolers get short-changed on rankings so do our transfers in many cases. Some actually have a reduced ranking as true sophomores becasue they didn't start all games as true freshman, which is absurd, IMHO. It's the same old song and dance with these ranking services.

 

The Lagway excuse will be the latest firmware update

 

We were the only team to make this list last year that did not make a bowl game or had a losing season… so that raises a lot of questions about coaching, scheme, depth, culture etc
Hopefully they figure it out. Seems to have crushed the offseason

 

This upcoming season:

- 18 SR's
- 21 Jr's
- 19 Sophomore's
- 8 RS Freshmen
- 21 Freshmen

We're not that young any more. As I've mentioned, the key to the season is the sophomore jump of last years freshmen. They have the highest ceiling, overall.

PS - Yes, we have 87 on 'ship...so 2 will be leaving...but that's another story.

 

Those juniors and seniors are not all SEC players and they are not ones that were recruited out of high school and been in the system for three or four years either. That makes a big difference.
When Lagway is a junior, and we still suck, do you have a definitive answer.

 

First of all, I'm a bit surprised that A&M is ranked so high. As Rick states, being in the mid-70's would seem like the ideal spot to be camped out in. But with the new playoff scenario, as mentioned, there is hope for that whole group. Different matchups, getting into that top eight or four...it helps bolster the probability of snagging better talent out of HS.

With a decent season we could hold onto some of those HS kids that bail late in the game. It would be enormously refreshing to see this change for the better. And, not a decade too soon!!

If I have to listen to another podcast talking about Napier getting fired, or will the Gators be better this year, the three remaining brain cells left in me bloody brain might just die off completely. I'm just this side of sitting on the porch with a drool-cup duck taped to my face as it is.

Plan for this season: Win the games we're supposed to win. Win the close ones in the end. Win a game or two we didn't expect to win.

Never has there been an opening game where the Swamp creed needs to ring out so loud and true. "The Swamp, where only Gators get out alive!"

Go Gators

 

Hi Mal, and a happy 4th to you and yours.

I tend to get uber excited and involved listning and reading about the "what could be's"
right up until the end of spring and summer sports (College Baseball World Series).

This time of year is a bit of an empty hole with little coming out about summer conditioning and the
program in general. (NIL, Transfer Portal and Re-Alignment) not withstanding.

Pretty much the story line this time of year is recruiting, and following the police blogs.

The latest UF pundit (The World is Ending) bitching and complaining is the recruiting rankings
and how many signee's UF has, in JULY.

I tend to follow Shane matthews philosophy on recruiting right now.........DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!
The current mission is about wins and loses. Many believe that if UF has even a moderately successful season, 7 - 5
say, recruiting will be fine.

Sure, I would love for UF to have twenty recuits committed now, but after early signing day last cycle, just how valuable
are committments in the summer recruiting cycle? Better than nothing I suppose, but it hardly means "ink on paper".

 

I agree - the top end talent is not quite there in the SR and JR classes. But we have most of last years snaps coming back....Hopefully player development is strong and everyone is "one year better", and we can show real growth as a program.