FSU Suing ACC over withdrawal Fee

They may very well end up in the Big-10 but I don't think anybody knows for sure right now. The Big-10 and SEC aren't going to offer any school (at least not officially) while they're in another conference. That would be tampering. But there may be informal conversations and maybe somebody at FSU has been told there is support from enough Big-10 members that they would be offered. But all of it right now is just rumors and I doubt anything happens until whatever buyout is negotiated.

But what I suspect FSU hasn't been told yet is that they might only be admitted to the Big-10 (or SEC) at a half share, like Oregon and Washington. I suspect that FSU execs are arrogant enough to believe they deserve a full share, but FSU, if they leave the ACC, is essentially exactly where UW and Oregon were, with no conference. They have no place to go and no leverage.

As far as the AAU question. I think the AAU requirement may not be as big an issue for the Big-10 as it has been in the past. AAU accreditation is not what it used to be either. It means a lot less as they add more schools. I believe the Big-10 would make sure FSU and any other schools they want to add are given AAU status if they need it.

As for when FSU would be able to leave the ACC, I don't think even if they negotiate settlement, it would probably be a year or 2 before they can actually leave the ACC.

 

Anywhere but the SEC

 

Preferably, straight to H E double toothpicks.

 

The two best scenarios is they get into the Big 10 at half share which would be about 30 mill. Or get into the Big 12 at a full share of about 30 mill. Or, stay where they are and get ---- 30 mill.

 

Even better if they pay a $300M negotiated buyout to leave the ACC ... only to find out those are their only options.

 

Definitely precedent.
Washington and Oregon are getting half shares with a yearly 1 million dollar bump until 2030.

Then they get full shares after the next contract negotiation.

 

Or start their own conference, the Southern United Konference or SUK. They have been the champions of SUK for a long time so why not make it official? Have a trophy and everything.

 

Trophy? They could have a championship backpack! Even better!!!

 

Problem is they wouldn't pay the $300M, we Florida tax payers would end up paying it.

 

I don't think so. Their athletic association is now an independent entity, just like our UAA.

Why would taxpayers end up footing this bill? Not likely.

 

His conclusion: "Finally, a judge will tell them they have to reach a settlement".

Ha ha ha. NOPE.

Judges decide cases. They have no authority to force a settlement of any kind.

Just another sports "journalist" who doesn't know squat.

 

It's just another journalist thinking that something will happen because it should (in his opinion).

Just like people thinking this is what the law is because that's the way it should be.

 

Agreed, they can force them to go through arbitration, but cannot make it binding.

 

Why would they go there? The money isn't better than the ACC.

If they push this-- to leave-- they have to think the Big or SEC will pick them up, because those are the only two conferences that will pay more.

Or, they want to renegotiate their deal with the ACC.

 

They wouldn't WANT to. But that might be the only option if the big 10 doesn't want them. SEC makes sense for a variety of reasons but it's not likely. Imagine having to go out west multiple times a year with OR, WA, USC, UCLA to play a game. That would suck.

 

The Texas/OU addition to the SEC was announced in July 2021 and supposed to happen in July 2025, so it was actually supposed to take 4 years, when the current Big-12 grant of rights ran out, but is taking 3.

For them to leave this year, under that agreement, it would have cost them $160M in media revenues the Big-12 would have withheld. Texas and OU reached a settlement to allow the Big-12 to withhold just $100M. It kind of made sense for the Big-12 with the Pac-12 programs (Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah) they're adding in 2024 to go ahead and negotiate and let Texas and OU go early under the settlement and move on. The Big-12 has the additional revenue of the Pac-12 schools and avoid a limbo year. With the addition of the Pac-12 teams, the Big-12 was really left in a pretty good position financially.

To your point, the FSU and Clemson situation is completely different. The ACC grant of rights expires in 2036 (12 years from now). And there are literally no more decent programs out there that the ACC could add to replace FSU, Clemson and any other schools that want to leave, except maybe Notre Dame, which just isn't happening. The ACC is boxed in. They really can't afford to lose their top programs or negotiate with anyone wanting to leave. They have no way to replace the revenues. In my opinion, the ACC has to fight to the death for it's survival. They have no alternative.

I believe if FSU, Clemson, UNC and whoever else wants out are going to have to find a way to implode the ACC. Basically what happened to the Pac-12 has to happen, but the difference is that the Pac-12 had no TV deal and no grant of rights. It's going to be a LOT more difficult to implode the ACC because they have the grant of rights and TV deal that lasts 12 years, plus the the remaining ACC members see what happened to Oregon State and Wazzu. The majority of the remaining ACC programs (BC, Syracuse, UL, WF, Duke, GT, Pitt, SMU, Cal, Miami and Stanford) know they would probably end up with a similar fate. UNC, UVA, NCSU, VT may have options. That's just my opinion.

The only other realistic scenario I could see is if there's a negotiated agreement to let the programs go with a negotiated settlement with a large buyout, and then merge the rest of the ACC with the Big-12. But I'm not certain how many of the remaining ACC schools would have a lot of appeal to the Big-12.

I really think FSU and Clemson are in a tough spot here. In my opinion, they don't have as much leverage as they think they do.

 

I don't care what happens to fsu. No SEC for you!

 

FSU's not paying a large buyout...not unless the ACC places a high value on clown noses and shit stained underwear.

 

Did you forget that school is in Tallacrappy where many of our politicians do business. Remember certain politicians wanting to sue everyone and boycott everyone because their beloved Noles didnt make the championship series last year. Dont underestimate the clowns and the other clowns.

 

What many have been saying about the Holes . . .