Louisiana Becomes First State To Require Ten Commandments In Public School Classrooms

And how is that evidence that Obama had a messiah complex? Did he ask those children to sing that song? My point, Rick, is that Obama never considered himself to be a messiah like “I alone can fix it” Trump most clearly does.

And nowhere in that song do they claim Obama is the “messiah” - again that’s only a word that was used by conservatives to describe Obama.

 

Except, of course, for the lawmakers mandating their preferred set of religious rules be displayed in the public domain. That's quite literally forcing it.

 

You could apply that same rationale to gay marriage and abortion. No one is “forcing” anyone to participate in a gay marriage or forcing someone to have an abortion, so who is trying to “force/outlaw” actions that don’t affect them?

 

Must have forgot what thread he was posting in.

 

Religion is not the white/black pub/dem issue that you want it to be. Please see post 378 for Limey's definition of arrogance.

 

Still waiting to hear how anyone is being restricted from practicing their faith. Anyone kicking your door down to take away your scripture? Anyone disbanding gatherings of the faithful? No wait, here it is: you are being persecuted because not everyone believes exactly as you do.

 

Sometimes its greater than 3 hours

 

What a tragedy.

 

It is which is why I'm making another donation this month to Planned Parenthood

 

Thank you for your response. As you can imagine, I do have some comments on it.

This reply seems to show an underlying cynicism which results in these kinds of snarky, spiteful remarks. I don’t believe anything because someone in “some nice robes” tells me. I believe what I believe because I trust what God‘s word tells me.

Saying that pastors only say what they do because they’re paid to is highly insulting to the overwhelming number of pastors who do their job because it’s a calling. It’s been pointed out numerous times on TH that the vast majority of pastors earn a very modest living.

When I first read your post, I thought of the illustration of a warning sign on the side of the road saying “bridge out ahead.” However, @tilly beat me to it. I believe it is an apt illustration.

You are free to ignore the sign, but we have a moral responsibility to at least point it out to you. You called that arrogance. We call that caring.

How good do you think a person needs to be to inherit eternal life? It seems to me that when people believe that their works will get them into heaven, they always draw the pass line behind them so that they have already achieved the requirement.

An Olympic long jumper can fly through the air orders of magnitude farther than I can. However, if living a life good enough to receive eternal life requires long jumping over the Grand Canyon, neither of us will make it. That’s why God provided his gift of grace, which only requires believing in Jesus.

Again with the snark. It’s not where you stand on Sunday morning. It’s where you put your faith.

That is a bold assertion for which you provided no evidence or argument. It almost sounds like a way to accuse religion and then move on. Do you also accuse atheists and agnostics, or governments for that matter, who have not alleviated poverty?

Global poverty is a complex situation with multiple root causes and multiple challenges hindering progress. The World Bank says that 20% of relief is lost to corruption, with a full 30% never reaching those who need it. Eliminating poverty would be a worthy topic to discuss, if you want to start a thread on that.

At the same time, you seem to be ignoring all that churches and Christian organizations have done to alleviate poverty and suffering in the world. My denomination, for example, has an entire division dedicated to development projects and disaster relief. The church I attend supports a hospital in Gabon, Africa, among other projects local and far away.

You might be interested to know that one study found the people who attend religious services regularly give significantly more to secular charities than people who never attend services. And among the religious giving, the most generous are evangelical protestants (who are routinely vilified on TH) and Mormons.

If you want the last word in this subdiscussion, have at it. I will not bother you anymore with my thoughts. You’ve heard the gospel. The decision is yours.

In closing, I’ll leave you with the words to a Larry Norman song, who was the original Christian rock ‘n’ roller (who I almost got the see in London many years ago). This is our motivation:

When you know a pretty story
You don't let it go unsaid
You tell it to your children
As you tuck them into bed
And when you know a wonderful secret
You tell it to your friends
Because a lifetime filled with happiness
Is like a street that never ends.

Sing that sweet sweet song of salvation
And let your laughter fill the air
Sing that sweet sweet song of salvation
Tell the people everywhere
Sing that sweet sweet song of salvation
Every man every nation
Sing that sweet sweet song of salvation
Let the people know that Jesus cares.[/QUOTE]

 

Remember these bumper stickers making the comparison between Obama and Palin:

Jesus was a community organizer
Pontius Pilate was a governor

 

dumb analogy. You are telling people to ignore a multitude of signs & only focus on the 1 sign. LOL that was Limeys pt all along.

a recent Stanford study showed that ketamine had significant effects on depression. They also found (requiring a clever design due to Ketamines trippy effects) that BELIEVING you were given Ketamine had significant effects on depression.

 

I was more referring to the general attitude where people say "keep it in church".

But again this law, while I disagree with it, doesnt build up a particular religion.

 

Do you honestly believe this law is not intended as a promotion of Christianity?

BTW (and not directed at you) - I like what Diane Ravitch wrote about this.

Hanging the Commandments on the wall doesn’t change anyone’s behavior. If they did, they should be hung in every prison cell. Let’s see how that works.

Louisiana Requires “10 Commandments” in Every Public School Classroom

 

I said that if thats the intention than that is dumb as well.

But the physical 10c hanging in a classroom does not promote one religion regardless of what those pushing it want.

 

Nuh uh....Your analogy is dumb.

 

That's not what I asked. I'll try again and would appreciate a simple yes or no.

Do you honestly believe this law is not intended as a promotion of Christianity?

 

You might be right, it's not a Messiah complex deal, it's a dictatorship worship like Hitler and Stalin might have received at murderous dictator type worship.

Should I post those disgusting videos to remind you people?

 

Care to expound, in your own words, on what he said or meant? If you're going to reference someone else's post at least give me the gist of what you go out of it... what you are obviously agreeing with in his post. I like Limey but I didn't read his post like you did so, indulge me, please. Thank you.