Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Louisiana Becomes First State To Require Ten Commandments In Public School Classrooms

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by mrhansduck, Jun 19, 2024.

  1. gatorjo

    gatorjo GC Hall of Fame

    1,700
    315
    213
    Feb 24, 2024
    Oh.



    Oh, my bad again.



    "Sad and unnatural" is certainly not judgmental at all. Never mind that, well, those people are being precisely natural. That is how they were created. Created by God.....or nature.......

    Judgments like yours just play into the false right wing narrative of "look at what these crazies or freaks are CHOOSING to do! They're not like us, they're WRONG!!"

    And what could be a worse judgment than being "against God's design" ? That's pretty much calling them "ungodly", which should be inferred to mean "not good" or "wrong."


    Look though - no need for anger. The glass is half full. It's very positive that you treat people well even if you have these feelings about them. Not everyone is able to do so.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2024
    • Winner Winner x 1
  2. Contra

    Contra GC Hall of Fame

    1,319
    335
    178
    May 15, 2023
    Certainly, but I have a bone to pick with this as well. I don’t have a problem with people who have critiques of Trump and his character. I really don’t. I agree with some of them, but there is a kind of person who obsesses over the moral downfalls of other people. Like they would not pass up an opportunity to talk about it if the opportunity presented itself. For example, if there is a discussion about the 10 commandments, the conversation would almost inevitably move from discussing the 10 commandments and begin to center on that person and their moral failures.

    When I was a teacher I had a student who was not kind. She did things to act up and annoy the other students. She earned a reputation, but her classmates relished talking about her constantly. It almost became their favorite hobby. I agreed with them on some level. She was hated, and she certainly earned it. But there was a way they relentlessly piled on this classmate in a passionately obsessive way that always bothered me. I almost felt like I had to defend her it was so bad. It did not sit right in my spirit, and I could not join in with them. First, it would not be professional because I was the teacher, but second even if we were outside of a professional setting it still would not sit right in my spirit.

    I believe moral criticism is OK, but there is a type of moral criticism that goes into hyper-drive. It is not redemptive. It is not constructive. It is not restrained. There is no grace or love in it. It is excessive, and there is no amount of oxygen in a room that could be consumed or calories that could be burned in participating in the activity of piling on and tearing down that person or group of people that would be deemed excessive. I simply cannot join in on that kind of activity and participate with a clean conscience.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2024
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. SotaGator

    SotaGator Junior

    177
    52
    1,783
    Apr 4, 2014
    Your response makes no sense. A set of "commandments", originating from several religions you mention, can not be a mandated public posting according to our Constitutional interpretation. And by invoking the name of Jesus, you are predisposed to favor your faith doctrine over others in the public sphere.
     
  4. SotaGator

    SotaGator Junior

    177
    52
    1,783
    Apr 4, 2014
    Here's an idea: We all learn to respect each other as people first, irrespective of ideology or theology, and accept that in the grand biological scheme of Earth, we are another set of sentient organisms.
    I know, I know, many humans love to think they are the super-special species. You may believe as you wish but please stop trying to shove your theology down my gullet. I'm just out here wanting to have clean air & water, food, and shelter.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,450
    1,127
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Sounds too much like a religion too me.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. SotaGator

    SotaGator Junior

    177
    52
    1,783
    Apr 4, 2014
    It is my "religion" called survival.
     
  7. StrangeGator

    StrangeGator VIP Member

    29,677
    2,027
    1,578
    Apr 3, 2007
    Chicago
    The 10 commandments are incomplete. Why is there no such commandment as "Thou shalt not rape."?
     
  8. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

    9,163
    2,114
    3,038
    Dec 16, 2015
    I think everyone’s is…some are more aware of it than others.
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 3
    • Informative Informative x 1
  9. FutureGatorMom

    FutureGatorMom Premium Member

    10,250
    1,128
    808
    Apr 3, 2007
    Florida
    Truth.
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  10. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,499
    2,734
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    It reminds me of my Church’s debates back when gays were (and technically still are) labeled as “intrinsically disordered” but told that they should not take offense or feel like they were being mistreated- just theology, don’t ya know
     
  11. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,432
    1,746
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    a workaholic this "1 book wonder" god ain't....maybe she'll expand in her next book.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2024
    • Funny Funny x 1
  12. gatorjo

    gatorjo GC Hall of Fame

    1,700
    315
    213
    Feb 24, 2024
    Can whims actually be properly described as "Orwellian" ?
     
  13. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Does being this angry all the time physically hurt?

    Read your posts in this thread and then read mine. Which one is showing a lack of tolerance.

    What "feelings" do I have? I mentioned "love" and "tolerance" as my feelings for the specific people that I discussed. Do those "feelings" bother you?

    Oh and I violate Gods design all the time. At no point have I said otherwise. If you would be honest for two seconds you would see I have said this a million times on this board.

    ALL of us are sinners in need of redemption.
    I am no better than you or the next person.

    It would do you well to see yourself similarly.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2024
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  14. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Do tell how I have mistreated anyone?
    Do tell.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  15. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    No one is shoving anything down your gullet.
    You chose to partake in this conversation. Sone of you act like you are being tied to a poll and tattooed with bible verses all while having an audio Bible pumped through surgically implanted AirPods.

    The drama is thick with you guys.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  16. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    We got your point the first time. Who is arguing that?
     
  17. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,499
    2,734
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    IMG_2275.jpeg
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

  19. Contra

    Contra GC Hall of Fame

    1,319
    335
    178
    May 15, 2023
    I am reminded of a book titled the Heresy of Orthodoxy. It is a clever description of the age and the era we live in.

    You have not mistreated anyone, though. When people firmly hold their ground and stay planted on the truth of God’s Word false accusations and lies is all they have left to attack us. Of course these lies and false accusations will be exposed for what they are eventually. We simply have to wait patiently for that time to come.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  20. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,432
    1,746
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    what a load of self-righteous crap.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1