Louisiana Becomes First State To Require Ten Commandments In Public School Classrooms

So, when news of the Code of Ur-Nammu hits Louisiana, Landry is going to expect that to be hung up instead?

 

Aside from abortion, I don’t think you’re a social conservative either. You seem like an empathetic type.

 

Would be great to see some of these conservative dipshits put their money where their mouths are and outlaw infidelity. Which is actually a legal contract with the state in most cases. Of course they’ll never do that because that’s a sin they commit and thus turn a blind eye to.

 

I'm not coming at you, and I apologize if it seems so. (I was coming after your ideas on this subject, but I've ceased since I understand your point better.)

Were I posting further, I'd be coming at the idea of vouchers as not being almost solely for the well off. Sure, I'll grant that not ALL users of vouchers are rich. And also that your idea on them seems to be the most equitable I've heard in....ever?

That said, we can agree that in practice far far more often then not, they're just a wealth transfer to the better off. And sorry, but I think history shows that expanding their implementation would mostly be more so. It would be naive to think otherwise. It would be even more naive to expect any different result than a widening of the education gap between haves and have nots.

*And as an aside, I have no problem with religion in private schools.

 

It is Louisiana. Isn’t it vaguely catholic?

 

I posted this earlier but no one seemed to care. So maybe I'm begging for attention trying again, but they love to claim that it has always been understood, even during the Founding Era and consistently through US History until the debauched liberal present, that all US law was derived from the Decalogue. That is not what the Capitol and the Supreme Court Buildings reflect. Both were built after the Founding era, but still:

The Capitol - Relief Portrait Plaques of Lawgivers | Architect of the Capitol

The 23 marble relief portraits over the gallery doors of the House Chamber in the U.S. Capitol depict historical figures noted for their work in establishing the principles that underlie American law. They were installed when the chamber was remodeled in 1949-1950. Created in bas relief of white Vermont marble by seven different sculptors, the plaques each measure 28 inches in diameter.

Select a specific lawgiver from the list below:

• Alfonso X
• Edward I
• Gaius
• George Mason
• Gregory IX
• Hammurabi
• Hugo Grotius
• Innocent III
• Jean Baptiste Colbert
• Justinian I
• Lycurgus
• Maimonides
• Moses
• Napoleon I
• Papinian
• Robert Joseph Pothier
• Saint Louis
• Simon de Montfort
• Solon
• Suleiman
• Thomas Jefferson
• Tribonian
• Sir William Blackstone

Supreme Court Building - United States Supreme Court Building - Wikipedia

Courtroom friezes: The South Wall Frieze includes figures of lawgivers from the ancient world and includes Menes, Hammurabi, Moses, Solomon, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius, and Augustus. The North Wall Frieze shows lawgivers from the Middle Ages on and includes representations of Justinian, Muhammad, Charlemagne, John, King of England, Louis IX of France, Hugo Grotius, Sir William Blackstone, John Marshall, and Napoleon. The Moses frieze depicts him holding the Ten Commandments, although only commandments six through ten, usually considered the more secular commands, are visible. In 1997, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) asked for the image of Muhammad to be removed from the marble frieze of the façade. While appreciating that Muhammad was included in the court's pantheon of 18 prominent lawgivers of history, CAIR noted that Islam discourages depictions of Muhammad in any artistic representation. CAIR also objected that Muhammad was shown with a sword, which they claimed reinforced stereotypes of Muslims as intolerant conquerors. Chief Justice William Rehnquist rejected the request to sandblast Muhammad, saying the artwork "was intended only to recognize him, among many other lawgivers, as an important figure in the history of law; it is not intended as a form of idol worship". The court later added a footnote to tourist materials, calling it "a well-intentioned attempt by the sculptor to honor Muhammad"

 

Yep, which is just one of many weird parts of all of this. Landry is Catholic and is promoting the Protestant version. Really strange stuff.

 

BTW, a semi-right wing Rosary podcast I listen to had a theological point yesterday that I had not heard before, and that I think may be percolating among the theocrats that I missed. For lack of a better term, a lot of theocrats love the OT because of the concept of a chosen nation (which they claim is now the US) that must follow Divine Will or face national condemnation.

But you usually push back on that by emphasizing the teachings of Jesus, which were more about personal holiness (oversimplification), not the nation as a whole. But he has an argument, maybe more widespread than I know, on how any area (he uses cities) that are not dedicated to Christ (his formulation), will be destroyed. I think this is part of their argument on why they must rule and purge Americans that don't appreciate their Dominion, because they are speaking for the Divine and you aren't - too bad for you - they know the Divine will through their prooftexting

Here it is - read all if you want full context

At the end of the eleventh chapter of Matthew, Jesus turns to the towns where He did 90% of his teaching and worked most of his miracles, Corazim, Bethsaida, and Capernaum, and predicts their downfall.

“Then he began to reproach the towns where most of his mighty deeds had been done, because they did not repent. “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty deeds done in your midst had been done in Tyre and Sidon,* they would long ago have repented in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And as for you, Capernaum: ‘Will you be exalted to heaven? You will go down to the netherworld. For if the mighty deeds done in your midst had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I tell you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

The fact is, all three of these towns lost their inhabitants and disappeared and it was not until the 20th century that they found Capernaum completely covered over, buried in mud. The inhabitants of Chorazin had to flee because of the unrelenting earthquakes. And Bethsaid, well, it has never been found.


We in the West come from a Christian nation, a Christian culture. If we care about it at all, we should care that our Culture is losing its faith, that we indulge in demonic entertainment, that we live godless lives, and that our Children have walked away from their faith. Christ has been with us. The Church has been with us. We have known the Lord. And we have not believed and repented, we have not become virtuous. If we love where we are, where we come from, we have to commit to saving our land by saving and spreading our faith.


June 19th - Sin City | Daily Rosary Podcast

 

So you're going to again ignore Louisiana choosing the Protestant interpretation over the Catholic and Jewish interpretation? You don't think the state posting that version in every classroom is favoring Protestantism over Catholicism and Judaism? (And that's without even getting into other religions.)

 

Yea, not claiming to be original. Far from it. The point is so obvious and ubiquitous it is not reasonably debatable by anyone with a modicum of intellectual curiosity and desire to be accurate.

But it doesn't stop them from with being consciously ignorant or cynically dishonest in arguing that they are just trying to follow the commonly held historical understanding that US law is derived from the Decalogue

 

In some cases divorce, alimony, and child support are some of the legal consequences of infidelity. I don’t know how things work out wrt to divorce in the legal realm these days, but I would hope alimony and custody of the children would be taken away from the unfaithful party.

 

I think homosexuality is against Gods design. That and abortion get me into hot water on the left.

My view on school lunch and health care and my past willingness to mask up without being a jerk to the poor kid at the checkout get me in hot water on the right.

I sleep great at night.

 

Well Florida is a “no fault” state. Not sure where you live but I’d assume Florida given where we are discussing this.

But in any case there are zero laws punishing infidelity itself. Let’s say you screw a porn star while your wife is nursing your infant son - if she forgives you that’s not against the law (assuming you don’t pay her hush money and cover it up). In most cases (Florida for example) it’s a state contract in which fidelity is sworn between a couple. It’s on the same list as murder. So do the Ten Commandments matter or not?

It’s also on a list that mentions nary a word about homos. I just find conservative focus on certain “sin” to be hilariously inconsistent and almost entirely fueled by their own prejudices and hatred.

 

Lol...what? They all use the same 10 commandments.
Im not sure what you are asking.

 

So aside from abortion - on which issues are you a “social conservative?”

 

We are all victims of our own bias, no doubt. Its why the Scriptures tell us to pay no attention to the splinter in our neighbors eye, if we are ignoring the telephone pole in our own eye.

 

It’s almost like y’all don’t read the book you’re claiming is divine.

 

That's not correct.

 

I am against the anything goes perspective on gender for instance. I dont think we should pass laws banning it, i just find it sad and unnatural.

Probably inaccurate to call me conservative or liberal. I tend to define myself by my faith rather than politics.

I believe that we are designed by a creator and that creator had a design plan (to put it In simple terms). There are things that I feel violate that.

I also know we live under a constitutional set of laws in our country and as long as that is the case I feel we should honor that as the scriptures tell us. Jesus said render to Caesar.

I will generally vote with my faith, but I wont support violating the constitution to push what I believe, because that is a slippery slope that will turn on you in a heartbeat.