Louisiana Becomes First State To Require Ten Commandments In Public School Classrooms

You mentioned drag queen story times, which are obviously not mandated in schools. So, which prog baby steps are you referring to?

 

You and others have missed the point of my comparison. I was not comparing public versus private spaces. I was not comparing actions of government versus actions of private entities.

@Trickster had responded to me, saying I did not understand the strong power of symbolism. I responded back to him that the power of symbolism on Too Hot depends upon the politics of the symbol and the politics of the person.

If the politics of the symbol and the politics of the person lineup, then there’s no power in the symbol and nothing to worry about. If the politics of the person is not lined up with the politics of the symbol, then the symbol is immensely powerful and must be suppressed. We see this all the time here. I just pointed out a couple cases where this was evident.

 

I literally said it in point 2 of the post you were responding too previously. I have said it twice.

As for the rest of your post, my position hasnt changed. I have always said it should be based on income.

 

What game am I playing? I dont support the law either. But the argument against it based on it pushing a singular religion is nonsense and that goes for the people pushing it who THINK it pushes Christianity. A little education on the facts seem needed.

 

It isn't moving goal posts. As pointed out, it is obvious the intent here. Regardless, yes, you absolutely can establish a set of religions. In fact, the United Kingdom recognizes both the Church of England (Anglican) and the Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) as national religions. Both are obviously established religions within the UK.

 

The money comes from somewhere. It doesnt fall from the sky. All public services are in some way funded by the public.

You guys may need reminded that I can be a tax the rich liberal when it comes to these things.

 

But no one is doing that here. And the 10C is immensely broad.

 

These posts illustrate exactly why this is a dumb law.

 

Yes, they are doing that. They are establishing Abrahamic Religions (and, as Lawyer pointed out, specifically, Protestant Christianity) as the religions of the state via using state funds to promote those religions at the expense of other religions.

 

Your vision exists, and will only ever exist, on the pages of this message board. Because the people who are in power rich are only interested in changes that benefit them make them more rich. Such as getting a rebate for the money they're frequently going to spend on private schooling anyways.

But hey, if your idea is so worthy, why are you limiting it in scope? Why not disband the public education system in its entirety? Private schools can do it better, and parents deserve choice, amirite?

 

Looks like you could limit that to one commandment pretty easily.

 

Trying to spin it as “no preference” is pretty weak. A God at all is a preference.

And there is a reason that Catholics or Jews use different versions. They are all quite adamant that words matter. Thus, requiring a specific version is indeed a singular endorsement.

But all that is meaningless web banter. The intent here is obvious and it isn’t whatever afterthefact history excuse a lawyer invented for them.

The “not gov funded” seems also like a weak lawyer invention, since that appears to be what they are feeding to the conservative SCOTUS judges. But not sure how something can be mandated but not required, even in the minds of whoever writes Thomas’ opinions for him.

 

And it's worth pointing out that Louisiana choosing the protestant version was no accident:
Louisiana wants the Ten Commandments in schools but which version?
The Louisiana statute requires a distinctly Protestant text, with Elizabethan language based on the King James Bible, which differs significantly from the versions used by Catholics, Jews and others. Some differences are inconsequential, but others have deep theological implications.

 

The argument that it pushes a singular religion is directly on point. In fact, it pushes a specific denomination (Protestantism) within that singular religion.

 

The strange part of that is that a substantial amount of Louisianans are actually Catholic. It was a French and Spanish colony that saw substantial Italian immigration.

 

I don't care to have anything in the classroom other than the three R's, but that is the point I'm making here.

 

The first Marxist revolution employed the short phrase "Peace. Land. Bread." It was a short 3 word summary that is easily repeatable, and it summarized the basic goals of the communist revolution in Russia. People could constantly chirp the phrase, so it became useful for spreading the revolution. Professional propagandists understand the power and effectiveness of these short little phrases. We've seen similar three word concoctions originate from political elites and the main stream media. "Build back better." "Heavily edited videos." These 3-word political phrases are easy to remember, repeat several times over, making them a good lure for the simple minded. History has shown us communism was a bunch of snake oil, though, relative to what it promised in its 3 word slogan. Bread really turned out to be bread lines and starvation in some instances. Land ownership for all turned out to really be the abolishment of all private property, and people were the property and slaves of the communist state. And peace turned out to be a lie because communism is a continual war between oppressor and oppressed, and many people died in the gulags.

So, history shows us these cute little pragmatic innocent sounding slogans can be words of death. A three word political phrase can be a deadly poisonous lie, one that is celebrated and readily accepted by the masses before it steals, kills, and destroys everything they hold dear. The graphic is carefully engineered for strategic effectiveness, just like "Peace. Land. Bread." was engineered to be strategically effective. Each line is brief. 4 lines are 3 words or less. 5 lines are 4 words or less, and all lines are no more than 5 words.



The picture above makes it very obvious what it is this sign mimics. What it mimics in many ways is a short succinct religious creed taken primarily from political activists who engineer these three word slogans to be tools in evangelism. Compare it to the Apostles Creed:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to hell.
The third day he rose again from the dead.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty.
From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic* church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

*that is, the true Christian church of all times and all places​

It's purpose and function is very similar. Compare it side by side with the Apostles Creed, and it is very apparent this is a creed of a religion that is theocratic in nature.

Creeds are supposed to be a short summary of foundational religious truth, but beyond being a religious catechism this is a catechism that demands society, government, and democracy itself bow before its self-identifying righteous demands. The 10 commandments also function as a short catechism of foundational moral truth, but there is a big difference. The 10 commandments come not from a music artist, not from a self-proclaimed trained Marxist racial political activist, not from a virulently pro-abortion politician and defender of Planned Parenthood like Hillary Clinton, who said women's rights are human rights, and not from a LGBTQ political activist group in Alaska, but from God. So, God's commands have no place in a school classroom, but commandments and creeds from music artists, Democrat politicians, self-proclaimed trained Marxist community organizers, and LGBTQ activist groups do. SMH. This 21st century confession is primarily about the political realm, unlike the 10 commandments, and it is a clarion call for society, government, and democracy to implement its agenda.

For those who know the historical and cultural context of the 10 commandments and the historical and cultural context of that graphic they know the two creeds are incongruent and contradictory. The simple minded will read that catechism, and think it enshrines moral goodness.

The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps. -Proverbs 14:15
​

The prudent one who has discernment will understand goodness is not measured by what is right in our own eyes, but what is right in God's eyes, which we can know through His word.

 

3 word slogans is the domain of radical Marxists, eh?

You mean like some of these Marxist gems:

• Build that wall.
• Lock her up.
• Keep America Great
  
• Stop the Steal.
• Hang Mike Pence
• Swamp the Vote

Trump is closer to Hugo Chavez than any national politician we’ve seen, so I guess this theory adds up in a way. Or maybe you just didn’t think that through properly.

 

On a related note, the term “mainstream media” is also one of those phrases. I guess the biases were too obvious when they’d drop “liberal mainstream media” or “lamestream media”. Now many of the propagandists I’ve observed drop the phrase “legacy media”.

But truly, using any of these terms pretty much gives up that the person has fully immersed themselves in confirmation bias media consumption - and probably whatever they are about to say is a bunch of mangled rw talking points.

 

Trump was a crafty politician. You missed the biggest one, though, Make America Great Again, but I never bought into that slogan. There is nothing wrong per se with small succinct summaries. The question is whether they capture truth in an honest way, or if they are crafty lies that will be celebrated and cherished by the masses. The Apostles Creed is a beautiful document that distills and summarizes timeless Biblical truth into a small number of words. All of those little propaganda phrases on that sign belong in a completely different category. Every single one of them is a crafty 3 to 5 word lie that distorts the truth in some way, when you understand those words in their original context.