My SIL has one and is undergoing treatments now. That two year-old seems super hyped about being here. Glad your type couldn’t stop him. Your mashup of Nazi social planning and religious zealotry is defcon 1 weird.
You are playing the short game. I'm playing the long game. There is a king above all of other kings. There are courts above all other courts. There is a government above all other governments. It might take a while for these things to shake out, but they will. The highest king, the highest court, and the highest government will win. It is best to side with the highest court. There will be receipts and definitive proof of who stood with the highest court and who did not.
I'm trying to understand your world too. You would have someone go through a background check to become a teacher or to possess a firearm because of the harm someone could do. On a scale of 1-10 how concerned would you be with the prospect of a male pedophile renting a womb to buy a baby from a surrogate mother? Would you support a rigorous background check in such a scenario to ensure that a person entering into a surrogate contract is not a pedophile?
You are playing a fantasy game. You live your life according to an extremely flawed 2,000 year old book written by a bunch of men who were just as terrified of dying as you are.
Obviously, I know how most people would answer the question, but the question was designed to get you to probe the relationship between the new life of a human being and the cause that brought that new life into existence. One can celebrate the person, while also condemning the evil act that led to the conception of the new person. The idea that you have to defend both is false.
So went to Vigil Mass tonight at a much more conservative parish, wonderful parish, members decades ago. During Prayer of the Faithful, they included (from best memory) a petition for couples suffering infertility, to pray for God to show them a path. Hmmm. Never heard that before. Maybe that’s just my usual parish; maybe it’s common at more conservative parishes. But plainly aimed against IVF. Got me thinking, actually while there. Why the sudden focus on condemning IVF? Working theory. It’s largely legal. The far cultural Right want to attack contraception legally. Not through legislation, which is harder and more politically dangerous, but through agency action declaring many forms of contraception as abortifacients because they can theoretically (or some times actually, like Plan B), prevent implantation of a fertilized egg, which usually takes about one week after fertilization. Mind you, by some estimates, at least 25% of fertilized eggs never implant naturally. (I’ve seen higher estimates, I think 40%, by memory, but did not find with a quick search). So if a fertilized egg failing to implant is an abortion, then nature is by far the greatest abortionist. In any event, if you are going to declare that anything that prevents implantation of fertilized egg, estimated to be about 1/100 of an inch at one week, amounts to abortion, you can’t allow IVF to exist legally without risking a vulnerable legal record for an agency action. So IVF may be a casualty of the need to try to limit contraception by calling it abortion, likely as part to a plan to mandate the kind of society they seek.
“The vote comes as Democrats in Washington, hoping to drive a wedge among Republicans, prepare to hold a vote on legislation to protect IVF …” From your article, that’s revealing. Not quite as altruistic as the vote might sound.
Very educational video from a former doctor who left the IVF profession for moral and ethical reasons:
Kind of hilarious how Republicans went from "No, we're definitely not coming after IVF" to "You know, I think we are going after IVF" in no time at all. House Republican proposes barring defense funding for IVF, says it’s ‘morally wrong’
Once that movement gets righteous moral zeal on an issue, they will never stop voluntarily, even if politically dangerous or if their position is exposed as causing some form of avoidable harm that could be avoided with the smallest of compromise. They are just too self-righteous and too aroused to purge society of what they view as impure
