The Pheonix PD is not comprised of just a few bad apples. It's not the "work of rogue employees." Pheonix PD employes 2,500 officers and trains them to use force first and it retaliates against whistleblowers. It trains officers to use force as quickly as possible. They have a system of us-it-or-lose-it where if you don't use your weapons enough they will take them from you. In 2021 and 2022, officers pointed a gun at someone over 6,000 times. Supervisors wrote that EVERY instance was justified. They specifically target minorities. That's quite the culture you have there. I bet it's isolated to this single department and exists nowhere else in the country... Phoenix police training at heart of abuses: What the DOJ report says The Department of Justice report into the Phoenix police that listed multiple instances of officers shooting, striking, restraining and arresting people in ways that violated their civil rights also said this wasn’t the work of rogue employees. At a news conference on Thursday timed with the report’s release, Kristen Clarke, an assistant attorney general, said, “This is one instance where we can't count on the police to police themselves." Federal investigators identified six areas of concern: The department used excessive force; It violated the civil rights of people living on the streets; It racially discriminated against Black, Hispanic and Native American people; It violated protesters’ First Amendment rights with mass arrests; It violated the civil rights of people with mental illness; And it didn’t modify its procedures when arresting children. Officers were encouraged to use force immediately upon arriving at a scene. Using a projectile or a stun gun, or Taser, was seen as a way of ending an incident before more deadly force would be required. Or, as one trainer put it, according to the report: “… before you really have to hurt someone.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.abc15.com/news/local-ne...ke-phoenix-civil-rights-announcement-thursday (The link includes a copy of the report) The report also states the department would often retaliate against those who spoke up about the violations. The head of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association (PLEA) had strong words for the DOJ’s investigation and findings. He said the union is opposed to the city signing any sort of consent decree. A consent decree with the DOJ would result in a lengthy list of specific reforms and cost millions of dollars "It would decimate morale,” he said. “I think you would see a lot of our officers, senior officers, maybe retire early." The association represents about 2,200 officers and detectives. -------------------------------------------------------------- Phoenix police used unjustified deadly force: DOJ investigation “The problems at their core reflect a lack of effective supervision, training, and accountability,” she added. "Our investigation revealed systemic problems within Phoenix Police Department that deprive people of their rights under the Constitution and federal law," the report found, adding: "We found pervasive failings in Phoenix Police Department's policies, training, supervision, and accountability systems that have disguised and perpetuated these violations for years." The report noted Phoenix police inappropriately train their officers to believe "all force — even deadly force — is de-escalation." In particular, the report cited what investigators called Phoenix's "use-it-or-lose-it" weapons policy. Clarke said the department would take away weapons from officers if they weren’t fired often enough.
Who said he was scared of the police? Does he live in Phoenix? That's a pretty flippant response to something that serious. Do you actually have an opinion?
My opinion is based on that posters history and proclivity of attacking the police. I do not see him attacking criminals….its always the fault of the cops.
My guy.. sometimes the cops are the criminals. Criminals are gonna criminal. It's what they do. I dont have to go about "attacking criminals." It goes without saying. If prison guards were setting convicted murders on fire or something heinous like that, being critical of the guards and not "attacking" the convicted murders doesn't mean that someone is pro-murderer. It's a pretty simple concept. It's also of the same vein of being critical of Supreme Court justices or other judges. Some people/professions should be held to a higher standard. They should operate inside the boundaries of what's ethical. They should inspire trust in the institutions they represent. Why do you take this so personally? Anytime I post you come and ride my nuts. When I don't post in other peoples threads on similar topics, you tag me in those threads to ride my nuts in those. Do you have any relevant opinion on a 2,500 strong police force run amok for years with little to no accountability? Do you think this is an isolated incident or part of a bigger picture? Or is it something something libbie something?
“I’m not scared of the police.” Also, “Do everything a cop tells you, so you don’t die.” Nothing to fear!
You’re feeding the culture of “you can’t tell me what to do” And everyone is racist… And this new breed is very hungry and happy to eat it up. Congrats on your hyperbole btw.
If you ever watch any of the dashcam videos that are put on Youtube when a detention or arrest goes awry, you will see why cops have to be somewhat immune to recommended oversight from suburban white women. It's the cops who try to be all friendly who end up getting shot. I do want there to be a healthy fear of cops. We will be in bad shape if there isn't such a fear.
