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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 9, 2024.

  1. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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  2. tampagtr

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    Been following closely. Hoping to fully understand. Hoping I am not understanding well enough and it is not the sign of darkness rising as it feels
     
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  3. slayerxing

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    Many in the world seems pretty tired with “democracy” in general at this point. It’s pretty sad.
     
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  4. exiledgator

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    Are people just thinking back fondly to authoritarian times gone by?

    If so, what where they?
     
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    Importing problems through immigration is causing the downfall of European society. Sounds like they have had enough. Hopefully we have too.
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    A little authoritarianism is much better than too much liberalism…
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    I remember five or six racial/immigration panics ago how Fox tried to convince everybody that there were "no-go zones" in Europe, where outsiders, including cops, wouldn't go. The funny part is that I had actually just walked through one of the neighborhoods in Berlin. It was quite safe and we actually asked a cop for directions there.
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    Latest projection. Center Right parties fail to get majority but can if radical right parties are included.




    From Wiki:


    Non-Inscrits (French: [nɔn‿ɛ̃skʁi]; abbreviated NI; also non-attached members, abbreviated NA[a]) are Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) who do not belong to one of the recognised political groups.

    These MEPs may be members of a national party, or of a European political party; however, for a political grouping to be formed in the European Parliament there need to be 25 MEPs from seven different countries. Being part of a group grants access to state funds and committee seats, but the group members must be ideologically tied. Groups of convenience, such as the Technical Group of Independents, previously existed, but are no longer allowed, and the minimum requirements for group formation have been raised, forcing parties and MEPs without ideological similarity to already existing groupings to sit as non-inscrits. Whilst some MEPs who sit as non-inscrits may have similar views and express intention to form new groupings between themselves in the future, non-inscrits as a whole have no specific ties to each other, other than their mutual lack of a political grouping.
     
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  9. oragator1

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    The problem with liberalism in its current form is that once whatever reforms they fight for are gotten, there has to be a next forward fight to win, otherwise they are just conservatives upholding the status quo. Those fights have now gone beyond the rational edge for a good chunk of western society. Different fights in different places, but same refrain.
    People need to stop being surprised by stuff like this and understand why it’s happening.
     
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  10. okeechobee

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    Yep, they are tired of your brand of “democracy.”
     
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    Curious how the Le Pen party in France feels about Ukraine?
     
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    I'm proud of you for finally admitting what I've been telling you for years. You love authoritarianism when it's your side. You bask in it's glory. Who needs freedom, gimme BIG GOV
     
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  13. exiledgator

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    I agree with this, but the answer isn't to burn it all down. The answer is to propose reasonable, logical, conservative ideas / legislation.
     
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  14. slayerxing

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    What is my brand of "democracy"?
     
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    lol finally the true colors come out. You never get a little authoritarian that’s not how it works. That’s the trap your fear mongering echo chambers have lured you in to.
     
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  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Sometimes you have to do things in life you don’t want to do.
     
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    Lol yeah whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
     
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