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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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  2. PITBOSS

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    …..that’s what seems to have been reported - russia has the most. I’ve interpreted as we have enough to do the job. I presume it just adds cost for maint etc. interesting China had just enough to be a deterrent. I never to get a grasp how effective we could be intercepting them. Not sure we know.

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  3. duggers_dad

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    ^ Of late I’ve read that China may have as many as 1,000 nukes. Not certain as to whether all deployable or not. If the latter it has greatly narrowed the gap.
     
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  4. okeechobee

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    If their backs are against the wall, I wouldn't put it past Russia to use a tactical nuke in east Ukraine. I don't think people understand how vested the Russians are in Ukraine. Before the war, the two countries regarded one another as brothers and sisters. It's a hornets nest - what we're getting into over there.
     
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  5. GCNumber7

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    This is simply inaccurate. Slavs, yes. Russians? Never.
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    next up, the rail line along the Astov Sea

    ATACMS Ballistic Missiles Overcome Defenses in Accurate Strike on Kerch Bridge (msn.com)

    On the evening of May 30, the Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted a successful operation targeting the Russian ferry connection in the occupied region of Crimea, as reported by the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The operation involved the use of ATACMS ballistic missiles to strike the Kerch ferry crossing, a critical point used by the enemy to sustain its military presence in the area.

    The strategic implications of this strike are manifold. Primarily, the operation dealt a significant blow to the logistical operations of Russian forces in Crimea. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that two ferries engaged in rail and road transport suffered considerable damage in the attack. One of them ran aground, hampering the operation of the entire Kerch ferry.

    These ferries, which were reported to be the only railway ferries serving the Kerch ferry, represent a critical loss in the operational capabilities of the Russian supply chain. Additionally, the attack on the ferry crossing was complemented by Ukrainian naval drones targeting the KS-701 “Tunets” transport and landing boats, with two of these assets destroyed, as confirmed by Defence Intelligence of Ukraine.

    The railway and automobile ferries were the sole services of their type operating at the Kerch ferry crossing. In addition to them, the occupied peninsula is connected to the Russian mainland by five more ferries: two small automobile ferries named “Kerchensky-2” and “Yeisk,” and three large automobile ferries named “Lavrentiy,” “Panagia,” and “Maria.” The strike comes as a clear message from the Ukrainian forces, as the General Staff emphasized, “The enemy must remember: Crimea is Ukraine.” This sentiment was further echoed by satellite imagery provided by the General Staff of the AFU, which depicted the aftermath of the hit ferry.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    just shocking that a helicopter gunship can't hit a seadrone. they don't move that fast and aren't that agile

    Watch moment sea drones dodge Russian helicopters’ guns as Ukraine launches attack near Putin’s beloved Kerch Bridge | The Sun

    Dramatic video shows the drones flying over water in Uzkaya Bay, western Crimea.

    Kyiv's forces dodge the Russian barrage of explosions raining down around them.

    The Magura V5 marine drones managed to hit two Russian high speed KS-701 Tunets [Tuna] vessels - despite the onslaught.

    The Tuna boats are used by Russian forces for patrolling as well as transport and landing.

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  8. chemgator

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    So you subscribe to the idiocy that Ukraine freely gave Crimea to Russia as a gift to their brothers and sisters? Was it a birthday gift or a Christmas gift?
     
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  9. insuragator

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    I have family that is Ukrainian. They have hated Russians long before this started.
     
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  10. chemgator

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    Russia sends a message to the French: stay out of the war, or we will play pranks on you and threaten you! Five coffins were delivered to the Eiffel Tower by Bulgarians, a German, and a Ukrainian with a message for French soldiers.

    Russia Suspected in Eiffel Tower Coffin Stunt (yahoo.com)

     
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  11. danmanne65

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    What I wonder is having seen the quality of Russian weapons how many of those nukes actually exist and how many can be launched? My guess is they have to be 50 years old and although they weren’t made by Boeing I question the quality.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    I’m puzzled as to how anyone could have followed the war, for 2+ years, and surmised that Russian weapons are inferior to the West’s.
     
  13. GCNumber7

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    Yeah the notion that they are brothers and sisters is pretty laughable. But on brand for the bullshit peddling posters.
     
  14. PITBOSS

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    any info you can share of how they are coping being under attack? What part of Ukraine?
     
  15. insuragator

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    They live here but have deep resentments. I avoid the subject.
     
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  16. chemgator

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    6,000:6. Russian tanks destroyed during the war vs. U.S. Abrams tanks. U.S. tanks are literally a thousand times better by that metric. Include all of the western tanks, and that drops to maybe 100:1 at the worst. Russia's latest tank? Dropped out from the action due to inability to compete. Armored personnel carriers and IFV's? Yeah. much better for the west. Same for Patriot missile systems. All 40-year-old technology, and kicking Russia's azz. Russia is only able to compete in this war due to volume of war materials and better electronic warfare systems. Take your propaganda somewhere else, Lee Harvey.
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Now provide a source other than the Ghost of Kyiv.
     
  18. uftaipan

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    Well, threats have worked so well to this point, so why mess with success?
     
  19. chemgator

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    You mean, other than every single western media outlet? These stories are based on information from Ukraine, but Ukraine does a far better job of documenting kills of equipment with video than Russian sources do. (At one point, Russian bloggers tried posting multiple pictures of the same destroyed equipment from different angles to claim multiple kills for each piece of equipment.) Your sources are shadowy individuals posting social media fairy tales straight from the Kremlin, Lee Harvey.
     
  20. uftaipan

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    This is precisely the matter. Russian weapons lack the sophisticated targeting technology the U.S. has, as evidenced by the repeated failures of their “precision-guided” munitions to hit their intended targets in Ukraine. Further, their dud rate is supposed to be significantly higher than their counterparts based on the results of testing. They need more weapons to be sure of the same effect, especially considering the numbers assumed necessary to take out our command and control facilities deep underground, such as NORAD. In short, the U.S. can reasonably assume that each of its weapons would hit its target and detonate with intended effect, and the Russians know it. The Russians also know they can’t make the same assumptions about their own weapons and have to cover the gap with mass. But this is all academic. Russia doesn’t want to find out what would actually happen any more than we do. As I said, Medvedev’s dumbass is bluffing again, just like with every other empty threat that has come out of his stupid mouth.
     
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