He's a loser. A liar. A cheat, a woman abuser, and a scumbag. Yeah, I'm celebrating his being found guilty. And don't forget, we've still got what? 54ish more felony counts. . . Ha. He's getting what he deserves and the best is yet to come.
You missed the distinction. Up until the 22 week a fetus is biologically incapable of existence separate and apart from its mother. Once again do you think frozen embryos in cryogenic canister should be counted for purposes of determining the congressional apportionment or for tax purposes or for entitlement to welfare benefits?
I did not miss the distinction. That is irrelevant. Your life began separate from your Mother at conception. At that moment you began to develop to where you are today. And you were incapable of independent existence for years after conception. I fully understand what you are trying to do. Which is justify that the procedure to kill the most innocent for convenience should be legal. We disagree.
This is hollow because I also recognize Trump's moral failings. I think the fundamental difference between you and I is there is a gatekeeping political fundamentalism afoot where one must toe a prescribed party line in their interpretation of Trump or they are tossed out of the camp and labeled MAGA and not a Christian by you. You are literally saying people are not Christians if they don't agree with your very narrow interpretation of Trump. These people who disagree with your very narrow interpretation can be people like me, who would say he is prideful. He has an ego. He has a temper. He is vindictive. He is sexually immoral. Someone can oppose every single one of those sinful tendencies in our former POTUS, and that is not good enough for you. Now, you might laugh at that criticism, coming from me, criticizing someone else for being narrow-minded about politics. However, Jesus said the path that leads to destruction is broad, and the path that leads to life is narrow. So, there is a sense where we need to be narrow if we want to have any reasonable expectation of inheriting eternal life. But be narrow about what? Hint: There is no verse anywhere in the Bible that insinuates that adhering to your straight jacket political fundamentalism with respect to Trump will be the ultimate determiner of who goes into eternal life and who does not. Jesus was talking about things that are much more universal in scope: faith and repentance. We can disagree about court cases brought against a former POTUS. I am not saying you have to change your opinion on Trump to be a Christian. I think someone can be a Christian and hold your opinion that Trump is guilty of everything he was charged with. Your opinion on that is not the main problem I have. It is how essential and crucial you believe one's opinion is on this matter as it relates to living the Christian faith that is a huge problem. I think Political Pelagianism is a correct description of what your true religion really amounts to. One's opinion on these court cases is not an issue of faith, repentance, or eternal life. If you are going to assert that a correct interpretation of Trump's deeds is an issue so fundamental that it determines if you are a Christian or not, then you have outed yourself as someone who is not a Christian. Someone who would make that argument teaches a false gospel of works righteousness whereby one gains entry into heaven by having a correct opinion about Donald Trump. You are not the only person in this forum who claims to be a Christian and defends this political works righteousness false gospel where one must have the correct dogma wrt Trump and zeal for that dogma wrt Trump to have a right standing with God. People will burn in eternity for preaching the false gospel of works righteousness. Go read the book of Galatians. Eternal curses are pronounced on those who preach a false gospel, adding their own human requirements to it. All of the worst curses and threats of eternal destruction in the scriptures are extended towards those who preach a false gospel. The book of Galatians does not mince words when it pronounces curses on those who would preach a false gospel of works righteousness. So, look. I do oppose Trump's sin. I even admit I could be wrong regarding my opinions relating to some of the things Trump has been accused of. When it comes to court cases, though, I am not the gatekeeping inerrantist that shuts the kingdom of God to everyone who does not conform to my political opinion. That is you. I do not condemn you to eternal destruction if your opinion on Trump is wrong. It is the false gospel of works righteousness that requires a particular narrow dogmatic analysis of Trump to be a Christian that I have a huge problem with. The second point that I will heavily contest regarding your last post is your attempt to equivocate the Trump issue to the abortion issue. Before I lay out that reasoning, though, I want to stress again what is central: faith and repentance. It is believing God and his Word, and it is obeying it. The abortion issue has to do with Christ's Lordship. Jesus is Lord. God's Word is true. If we depart from God's Word, and we don't obey it we are sinning. Repentance is turning from sinful ways, forsaking them, and turning to God in obedience. Consider this. In Acts 2 Peter preached the first gospel sermon ever. The people who heard this sermon asked, "What shall we do?" What did Peter say? He said, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins..." No repentance = no forgiveness. That is why abortion is a gospel issue. The Bible clearly preaches against it. It clearly teaches that a person carrying an early term fetus is a mother, which implies that a child exists. The Bible condemns murder. No one can defend abortion with their Bible flipped open to Luke 1. So, abortion is a moral issue tied directly to the 10 commandments. What one's opinion is of the myriad of accusations and narratives surrounding a highly polarizing political figure...that is not a gospel issue.
I have more respect for people like Dennis Quaid who say “Trump is an a-hole, but he’s my a-hole and I will vote for him no matter what” than the people who use religion as a shield to hide their hypocrisy and try to unravel their moral pretzel.
We were here for you when Matt Bevins lost but you disappeared and then returned under this persona instead.
Yes but will we be able to find you the day after the election if Trump loses? I'll be here no matter what
Falsely convicted? Rediculus. What you are seeing is a man child who has always been able to get away with anything he wanted to because he had the money to sue you into oblivion suddenly being held to the standards the rest of us normal people are held to. In other words, he is having a temper tantrum.
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. Hopefully we can all practice tolerance towards those who disagree with us.
Well, since your side is contantly talking about "civil wars" and "shooting all dems", yeah, I hope we can all do that. What I find funny in your recent diatribes, is that you talk about "not dehumanizing people." I agree with that 100%, and that is why Trump is such scum. He is constantly dehumanizing people - migrants, liberals, judges, witnesses, etc. He has ZERO concern over the hate and bigotry his words spread and any violence that may come because of it. He is LITERALLY a student of Hitler and is using the same playbook Hitler used to dehumanize the jews. But you just go ahead, go to church, say your prayers, and then vote for one of the worst human beings to ever walk this earth. You will be judged... hope it works out better for you than it has from the Diaper Don.
Well, I don't want a civil war, and I don't want to shoot all dems. However, it looks like we've found another case of Political Pelagianism where political works are added to the biblical gospel. Truth be told...the deadly venom of the false gospel of political works righteousness is deadlier than the venom of the most poisonous snake. I will not be jabbing that stuff into my veins. False gospels are spiritual assassination potions, and I will not be spiritually assassinated by you today.
But those things made him Bill Clintonesque. And frankly many of is saw him as getting treated differently than the Clinton types. So while I agree with you, I think many of us hoped it was just typical political mudslinging. Once he was in office and we paid better attention, we noticed it was next level. ...but regardless, as I have said...i deeply regret even voting for him in 2016.
A newborn baby, a two year old, a 4 year old are all dependent on a "mother" as well. Not many toddlers would survive on their own. Viability is relative to who is making the point.
In 2016, 99.99999% of the presidential election news was focused on the mean lady's emails. Whatever space was left was like, "Aww, look at that wacky Trump. Doesn't he just say the cutest things?"
But are they completely biologically dependent on their mother? Before the 22 week of gestation a fetus cannot survive outside of the womb. While they are all dependent on adults, a newborn, a two year old and a 4-year old can survive completely independent of their mothers. Not so with an embryo shortly after conception, a 6-week old fetus, a 12-week old fetus or even a fetus in the 20th week of gestation. In addition to biological dependence, the health of the mother and the fetus are directly related to each other. When one suffers a medical crisis it can directly affect the health and even life of the other.
Applying logic to the abortion debate always fails because the crowd that believes that life starts when you start kissing someone is too inculcated into their propaganda to react rationally. If you put a fetus and a 4-year old alone in a room for a couple of days with a ceiling high stack of Little Debbie snack cakes, the 4-year old won't die of starvation if let there for a couple days.
