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When Will Trump Supporters Stop Being Wrong?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PD, May 31, 2024.

  1. l_boy

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    Not everybody thinks early term medicinal induced miscarriage is one of the great tragedies of our society. Why you and the religious right are fixated on abortions in the US is somewhat perplexing.
     
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  2. l_boy

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    One of the rare posts I completely agree with you.
     
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  3. l_boy

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    While I can see the view that PD was spiking the ball, scoreboarding and taunting the opposing fans in the end zone, what I did find interesting is just a detailed summarization of all of the misdeeds. None of it is new, but sometimes when you see it all articulated together it is still shocking. I don’t think it is an irrelevant question as to is there anything that Trump could do to give his supporters pause. It’s a rhetorical question, because the clear answer is no.
     
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  4. gatorchamps0607

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    I believe the term is epistemic humility.

    This victory parade may be a little pre-mature.

    Wouldn't it be more helpful and you may get more honest answers if you understand that MILLIONS of people disagree with you and your reasoning. Not all voters are voting for Trump, they may just be plugging their nose and not voting Dem. You mean to tell me the Dems around here would vote for an older senile George Bush type over a polarizing narcissistic Dem nominee who you could compare the things Trump has been accused and/or convicted of?

    Yeah f'n right. The party that apologizes for Anitfa and BLM riots or other radical behaviour (chaz) in the name of what YOU believe in. So while you all are on this victory lap and you see people not taking you seriously or not changing their vote to Dem, its probably because they don't want to be associated with you or your party of glaring humbleness, humility and inclusiveness as evident by this thread. By the way, Joe's approval rating isn't great and he may lose to someone in jail.

    Neither party is anything to write home about, you both suck.
     
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  5. gatorpa

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    Do you feel better now?
     
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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    He could switch back to Democrat. That would undoubtedly do it.
     
  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    Our resident IMPARTIAL INDEPENDENT! How long before you get butthurt and storm out of here? I give it 2 days tops.
     
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  8. danmanne65

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    Safe legal and rare. Should be the goal.
     
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  9. AndyGator

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    typical responses from the right. Can't attack the contents so personally attack the OP. Very disappointing - yet again.
     
  10. G8tas

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    If the Dem nominee was a rapist then I would vote for the Bush type. I think most Dems are against rape. For some reason supporters of other parties tend to excuse rape, fraud and grifting in the name of power. They tend turn around and call themselves the party of morals and law and order. Shameful
     
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  11. tilly

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    I said our Inability to solve the problem is one of the great tragedies. Think about my comment and tell me what you actually disagree with.

    In a vacuum, my comment doesnt even take a position.
     
  12. tilly

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    And that is not where we are. Rare is hardly accurate. We have not solved the problem and as long as it is so prevalent, it will never be rare.
     
  13. gatorjo

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    But this, of course, would require state action regulating, encouraging, or otherwise determining and enforcing a specified code of morality. Which is a pretty big leap for voters of any stripe. So we're left in the meantime with; should the state dictate women's reproductive rights or not.

    And needless to say, many who advocate the state doing so on the basis of their personal moral code......are also quite content to vote for an adulterous criminal. One who recently committed the most obscenely un-American crime of a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election.

    Certainly you can understand if the moral superiority of those who would presume to dictate the rights of others is........thoroughly questioned.



    Who knows though, maybe Americans will generally and collectively decide to.....behave better, in a manner more grounded in basic morality. If so, will it be led by the supporters of an adulterous criminal?








    Edit : Oh, and let's head off a counter-argument in advance :

    "But I refuse to vote for that adulterous criminal," one might say. Leaving unspoken : "I merely vote for the organization and political apparatus that defends and enables his crimes!!"

    Hmmmmmmmmm.
     
  14. danmanne65

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    That was a quote of Hillary. Don’t know if she said it when Bill was president or during one of her runs. It should be everyone’s goal.
     
  15. GatorJMDZ

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    When Will Trump Supporters Stop Being Wrong?

    @PD: As a first step, I'd settle for Trump supporters finally acknowledging they are putting their Christian beliefs aside for him or really aren't Christians to begin with. At least get rid of that hypocrisy.
     
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  16. tilly

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    Your entire post contains no lies.
    I do want to focus on this portion though.

    That apparatus has historically been the one that follows closest to the moral code of half if not more of American voters.

    This leaves good people functioning as a boat with no port in which to dock, but floating aimlessly is also not an option. They will literally wreck their boat on the rocks to at least have the illusion of safe harbor.

    The Trump phenomenon has been the hurricane that cause these boats to have no port to return to.

    Its truly a very difficult situation that should not be just flippantly ridiculed for anyone with an ounce of honest observation.

    In other words. Moral codes are the compass. And right now our moral codes are not pointing us to any viable harbor so some still chose to brave the hurricane, while others of us, head out to sea hoping the storm will pass and we can also return.

    But yes, for me at least. That port is no longer an option.
     
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  17. gatorchamps0607

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    I've only claimed to be independent, not necessarily impartial. I've always said I dislike Dems (hardcore libs may be more accurate) way more than Reps but thats a social preference not a political one. Its about who you are, not what you believe in for me.

    Furthermore, I don't "storm out". I post what I post and there is usually no reason to debate any of you because Im not here to change your mind. In fact, I believe in a lot of Liberal political stances (gay marriage, trans rights, legalize weed and maybe a few other drugs, some social programs to help the needy etc). My whole reason to throw out a post and leave is maybe one day you all will reflect on how you treat other people who disagree with you but there's no reason to stick around and debate or force something that will never happen.

    Ive said it many times, be more like Oaktown (miss him) than who most of you act like now.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    I suspect that of the millions of Americans, in key battleground states, who would vote for Trump, that a goodly number are now thinking, “Oh, he’s a criminal now, guess I’ll vote for Biden.”

    *sarcasm*
     
  19. G8tas

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    No I expect them to ignore the rape, fraud and theft and vote for the same person they have the last two elections
     
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  20. Contra

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    I would reiterate that I don’t hate or loathe Trump. I do pity him. He has one of the biggest cases of pride we’ve ever seen in the office of the POTUS. He is also probably the most promiscuous President we’ve seen in our lifetimes right next to Bill Clinton. However, I am thankful he delivered on striking down Roe vs. Wade. I am thankful he created a stable foreign policy environment for our country during his years of service to our country. The man should get credit for doing the good and the right thing when he has done so. And he should be criticized for his shortcomings.

    What I do hate is the current political environment where policy is irrelevant. I think such an environment is dangerous for the country. It is not dissimilar to a situation where we are arguing about who should be coaching the Gators and the ability to accumulate wins on the field or recruit top flight players is irrelevant. Or we are debating who the next CEO of a large corporation is going to be and any kind of analysis of a candidate’s ability to make financial decisions is meaningless because of [insert reasons].

    I hope I’m wrong, but I think it is likely we’ve entered into a new era of American politics. Joseph Stalin said, “Give me the man, and I’ll give you the case against him.” I hope I am wrong about this. I hope when Trump leaves the political landscape we return to a past era of American politics that is more civil, but that is presumptuous. I expect a lot more lawsuits to be brought against politicians in the future. I expect a lot more criminal charges to be pressed against politicians in the future. Once a political strategy has been employed with great success, it is very unlikely that strategy will be tabled in the future.

    That is why I don’t think Trump will be the last Trump. Mike Pence or whatever sucker chooses to be the next Republican nominee for POTUS could be the next Trump because in a Stalinist era of politics you find a man, and you find a way to prosecute him for something, for anything even if you have to do it by corrupt means. The next conservative justice nominated for SCOTUS could be the next Trump too.
     
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