Agree, I hope the party will get it's act together and elect good candidates with real legislative agendas to help the country. But it will take time and thats assuming Trump does not win re-election. Trump has shredded the GOP and replaced it with a bunch of weasels, yes men and woman, and enablers.
I think what you are missing is that in 2020 the Republican party literally did not list a platform on their site. Or on Trumps site It literally did not exist.
This is that whole Groucho Marx thing about not wanting to be in a club that would have you as a member
Our republic needs two functioning parties. Just wondering when or if there will ever be a post trumpist gop. Hope springs eternal.
2020 was the year of COVID, so the party was not able to convene to discuss the platform. Normally over 3,000 people gather together to do this, and that was not going to happen in 2020 with COVID. Rather than allow a small 300 or so people write a new platform, they opted to keep the 2016 platform, which seems reasonable IMO.
This is the same year Hermann Cain got COVID and died because they insisted on holding in person Trump rallies but they couldnt do that because of COVID ... lol
Lame excuse. Nothing stopped them from writing a platform, except the orange guy; ergo it was whatever he said it was. Nothing has changed.
Could you imagine CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, etc salivating over the opportunity to rake the RNC over the coals for gathering 3,000+ people together in one location during the height of COVID? The RNC superspreader event would have been in the headlines for months.
Yeah, no way would the Republican Party gather 3,000 people together in 2020. Also, it is a real shame that nobody ever came up with a technology that allowed people to talk over long distances in 2020. Man, somebody doing that could have made a bunch of money. I bet they would have called it something like Vroom. Unfortunately, no such technology exists.
I didn’t call you a liar. I wouldn’t do that because I don’t believe you are a liar. I think you try to deal in truth and are as honest as your biases allow you to be. But politically, your biases do tend to take over. I said you told a lie. And you did. You did. And I’m not calling hyperbole (“a million liberals”) a lie, because I embrace the useful rhetorical function of hyperbole. It was a conceptual lie. Because the weight of my post, and the only reason I came over here today, was that something absolutely new happened. Trump is now a convicted felon. I feel safe to say that before yesterday, nobody said that. No hyperbolically, but literally nobody. And if you didn’t know that’s the reason I made the original post, you knew when I spelled that out (to 92, I believe). So you intentionally told a lie, slipping it in with the rest of the bullet points to give it cover. It’s not vile or egregious or anything. Doesn’t make you a terrible person. Which is why I asked you if you wanted to take it back. That also left the door open for you to say it was just an oversight in your rant, which would be perfectly believable. But you did do it.
The Democrats crafted a platform, so my guess is the Republicans could have as well. Kushner was pushing (on behalf of Trump) a plan to shorten the entire 58 page platform down to a "wallet" sized business card. The party resisted and THAT is likely the real reason for the stalemate. It was Trumps desire to control the platform that led there to not being one and will likely lead to it again unless he has full control over its contents.
I love this alternate history where Republicans were worried about COVID and libs like Cuomo shaming them for gathering without masks and stuff. When did they go from that to demanding they be allowed to inject bleach and horse paste in defiance of CDC recommendations?
Ah, well then I stand corrected on that point IF he wasn’t lying, which he does professionally for a living, and he did pretty much nonstop during the entire OJ trial saga and the entire Trump impeachment saga. See how easy that was, @tilly . You can do it, too.
By saying i "intentionally told a lie...slipping it in...to give it cover" you are calling me a liar. How can you even say that with a straight face?
Circling back here. 1. You discount previous history. (You may be unaware and I fully understand that) 2. He literally spewed ridicule in his entire OP and did it broadly. Me calling it out IS moderating. I generally do it without silencing the poster (ie deleting and merging). I am not a fan of deletions and censoring unless an outright violation occurs. PD is not a bad person and he has been here contributing probably longer than me. But he gets over his skis emotionally with political stuff. It is what it is.
I don’t know if you’re ignorant of how it works, or if you’re being dishonest. The parties literally create a hard copy of their platform for every presidency. It’s not a concept - it’s a document. When Trump took office, the GOP had no platform. No document. They didn’t even wave around a binder of blank pages, like they did on the floor of Congress under Obama, pretending it was their healthcare plan (which they never had). So “act(ing) in accordance with the Republican party platform” doesn’t exist in any sense of the phrase if an actual tangible platform does not exist. And conceptually, what you said is nonsensical when we consider the reality that the GOP hasn’t governed or even tried to govern since the 1990s. This is by design. After the Clinton Dems swept the White House, House and Senate, Mitch McConnell, Newt Gingrich and a third guy I forget, held a strategy lunch to try to figure out how to get back into power against a super-popular POTUS and party. They acknowledged that they couldn’t change any policies to align with the American people, because that would be counter to the demands of the wealthy donors who own them. So they decided to take Reagan’s vile strategy of demonizing Dems to a new level, so no governing at all, and just block anything the Dems want, even if they align with GOP policies, and even if republicans write the bills themselves. The new plan was to create chaos, mistrust and disgust in the government, and hatred of Dems and minorities. And as we all saw, it worked like a charm. It dovetailed perfectly with the rise of hate peddler Rush Limbaugh and propaganda machine Fox News, both of whom were immediately brought into the RNC strategic inner circle. Since then, their platform has never been followed; it’s just been for show. So when you say that Trump’s Republican appointees would just follow the historical Republican platform, that means nothing. Because there has been no actual GOP platform since the 1980s.
