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Trump Addresses Libertarian Convention

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, May 26, 2024.

  1. ETGator1

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    Because he is too far left of the libertarian mainstream members, doesn't look anything like the libertarian platform I posted earlier in the thread.

    It's like the union bosses saying to vote for Biden and the union members voting for Trump. Biden has sold the Michigan auto workers down the river to be sacrificed for his climate change agenda. They know it.

    Libertarians back at home aren't going to vote for their nominees crapola either, maybe those living in blue states who prefer the woke life.
     
  2. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    I'm not sure you understand what libertarians are. They aren't just a fancy name for disaffected Republicans. Free trade, relatively free immigration, ending the war on drugs and mass incarceration, gay rights, and private abortion rights are all part of it.
     
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  3. ETGator1

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    They certainly aren't what their platform says they are. They may as well be the LGBTQ plus other letters that apply and more party.
     
  4. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Can you point out where their platform is opposed to LGBTQ right? That is your party, not their party.

    In fact, here is the relevant section on gender and sexuality:

     
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  5. philnotfil

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    The Libertarian party's platform

    Chase Oliver's platform

    Where are the differences between his platform and the Libertarian party's platform?
     
  6. gatorjo

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    LOL, you support a guy who said all this, who just stood in front of people and told one absurd lie after another. :)

    This isn't some old dude saying he played football 60 years ago or something. This is a guy delivering a platform of total lies to a group of adults. This is who you shill for every day, LOLOL!! :)


    Donald Trump =

    "Spies on the American people, censors us, and crushes the rights of its own citizens, which the Biden administration does. .. crooked Joe Biden who is destroying our country. ... If Joe Biden gets back in, there will be no more liberty for anyone in our country. ... Joe Biden’s radical left Democrat party is a fascist movement that wants to throw you in jail if you post a meme they don’t like. They want to throw you in jail if you do something that isn’t quite to their liking. ... Persecutes Christians and patriotic parents, ... They want to get rid of the First Amendment, the Second Amendment due process, the right to a fair trial, and the right to counsel all the while pushing wealth confiscation and waging endless and unnecessary wars all over the globe."
     
  7. ETGator1

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    Thank you for describing Joe Biden perfectly. Good job.
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    Eh, a sizable portion of people who call themselves "libertarians" are racist conservatives who enjoy weed and don't like age of consent laws. ;)
     
  9. philnotfil

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    Also true.
     
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  10. gatorchamps960608

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    The last platform your party had was all about handing Ukraine over to Russia so maybe sit this one out.
     
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    Is that a semi-adult adaptation of "I know you are, but what am I?"
     
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  12. ETGator1

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    I'm sure I don't know what you mean.
     
  13. philnotfil

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    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/should-libertarians-make-a-deal-with-trump/

    So, is the point of the Libertarian Party to use what leverage it might have to accomplish libertarian goals? Or to just get a few percentage points in the presidential election every four years? It’s an honest and practical question.

    Donald Trump is no libertarian. If he stops making these sorts of libertarian-friendly overtures or goes in the other direction between now and November, I’ll be voting third party again.

    But Trump is also, for better or worse, a transactional personality. You give him something he wants, and he could do the same in return. That’s basically what he said at the Libertarian convention. High-profile libertarian Republicans are in his corner and ear already. Do you give him your vote and get a free Ross Ulbricht or Julian Assange? A pardoned Edward Snowden? More criminal justice reform? Less war?

    Maybe he doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain as politicians are wont to do. But even then, what have you really lost? Or do Libertarians not try to do any of these things and settle for three percent of the national vote at best?
     
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  14. grouchygator

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    But he is running as a republican, not a libertarian.

    FYI, this writer is fun to follow:

    Elizabeth Nolan Brown