Worst moment since the Civil War? I don’t elevate a ragtag bunch of ridiculous rioters stomping around the capital to be worse than 911, Pearl Harbor, the Oklahoma City bombing, the explosion on the battleship Maine, or a host of other terrible events in our history. I don’t give them the credit that you do. Nobody stomping around in a buffalo hat is a threat to anything.
How about the rest of the conspiracy to overturn an election and not transfer power? You OK with the establishment of multiple fake elector slates? Coercing state election officials? Trying to coerce his own VP? The fact that ANYONE is not entirely outraged by that egregious criminal assault on our constitution is mind-boggling.
Never said I was OK with any of that. I just don’t think the sky was falling. Unlike many here, I do not think the very existence of our democracy hung in the balance.
Seems reasonable. Hopefully every losing sitting POTUS will establish fake elector slates and call up state's Secretaries of State asking them to "find" enough votes to swing the state. And forcefully implore their VP to not certify the election. Wouldn't make the sky fall.
I guess I misspoke - I don't hope that. I am just trying to be more like you; I won't really care. After all, a repeat of the greatest electoral criminal conspiracy in modern American history wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's not like the sky would be falling.
what do you think caused inflation? How much of that stimulus money was approved under djt? Do you think the US is the only country having problems with inflation? How does US inflation over last 3 years compare to other industrialized countries? Does potus control what the fed reserve does? smdh at how seemingly intelligent people lose all sense of intelligence when djt enters the chat.
you might want to go check the amount of stimulants pumped into the WH during djt tenure and how the rampant use of them has caused djt to have to wear diapers.
so many better choices than Kamala. dem party would be screwing up again to anoint her. anointing the shill gave us djt. anointing harris likely gets us another extremist like Vance
which one of those threatened the literal survival of our democracy? those rioters "stomping around the capital" overran the senate chambers and forced the delay of the peaceful transition of power. nothing since the civil war has threatened our country in such a way
so if djt was succesful and was appointed potus by a fake group of electors, would that have been a threat to our democracy? when elections don't matter and power brokers appoint themselves potus, it is no longer a democracy, would you agree?
And next time he'll have a sycophant VP who will do whatever he says, and AG, and FBI director, and...
there is no doubt he will actually weaponize the FBI and the DOJ to go after any enemies, real or perceived. such abuse of power would justify armed rebellion, which nobody needs. smdh to think he has the support he has
No, you’re not being like me at all. I never said those were not “that big of a deal.” Why do you take someone’s view and twist into some kind of extreme character. Why can’t you accept that not everybody sees things to the same degree that you do? Just because we don’t see things exactly as you do, doesn’t mean that we represent the opposite of your views. What was the net effect of those events? Did they succeed? Do they come anywhere close to succeeding? It has been pointed out numerous times on TH that all of Trump’s legal challenges to the election results were bounced out of court on their heads. Isn’t Trump going to be prosecuted for his efforts in Georgia? Didn’t Biden become president? Or was there any delay whatsoever in Biden becoming president? Seems to be the system worked, and the perpetrators are being punished, and our country has moved on just as it should.
Yes, if Trump had been successful, then that would’ve been a threat to the democracy. But he wasn’t successful. He didn’t come anywhere close to succeeding. Our system easily defended itself and moved on as it should.
Slight correction in your comments. The transition of power took place at the inauguration. I don’t think the inauguration was delayed.