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Greg Abbott pardons Daniel Perry

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, May 16, 2024.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Stand your ground. Self defense. Some additional facts, not deemed relevant, in thread below

     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    One racist killer pardons another. Shocker.

    Forgot: Something something LAW AND ORDER!
     
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  3. GatorJMDZ

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    The feds need to pick this up.
     
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  4. G8tas

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    Let's wait until all of the facts come out before we cast judgement. /s
     
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  5. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    It's already been the subject of intense fact-finding, including at the parole board. The only facts that are relatively "new" are those that were released by an order of the court after he became a cause celebre as a victim, not motivated by racism. A lot of previously nonpublic evidence was released, including his plans before he drove there and his general plans to research ways to kill Jews, blacks, etc. and victimize young girls. Didn't stop the pardon movement

    He was convicted. The evidence is already out there - has been for awhile
     
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  6. sierragator

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    So self defense, stand your ground to plow your car into a crowd? When does he get his own show on OAN?
     
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  7. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    We have a very roughly analogous case pending in Tampa right now. Looks like a hate crime, in this case homophobia. Either way, would take the perpetrator set out to either intentionally provoke a response or engage in very provocative actions, hoping to get a response which would then justify their use of deadly force,, which they came prepared to do.

    Perry was a depraved racist who went to the BLM demonstration after exchanging a lot of text messages with his buddy about how ready he was to kill a BLM protester. Depending on what you believe, and the forensic evidence seemed to dispute his view, after he drove into the middle of a crowd, someone waved a gun at him and then he shot and killed the guy that waved the gun.

    A lot of dispute over whether he was actually responding to a threat.

    Undisputed that he hated the protest and protesters, came armed to the protest and got in the middle, and bragged to his buddy that he would kill one of them
     
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  8. gatorjo

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    More effluvium from the sewer Trump opened.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    Why am I not surprised?
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    I usually oppose vigilantism, but this is a situation where I support it.
     
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  11. AndyGator

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    Can't have a brown shirt superstar rotting in jail. :eek:
     
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  12. wgbgator

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    More evidence that the law only protects gun owners who shoot first and kill, not the people who carry for self-defense and get killed. This happens the same day as the killer of a family member of mine walked claiming self-defense in a road rage shooting after over a half-decade of the legal system churning its wheels, and the indifference of the justice system allowing the case to fall apart. Only one side gets to tell their story it seems.
     
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    It’s Texas. There’s an asterisk on everything that happens there.
     
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  16. cocodrilo

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    "Forget it, Jake. It's Texas."
     
  17. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Kevin Drum with a solid take

    You remember Daniel Perry, don't you? He's the guy in Texas who developed a hatred of Black Lives Matter protesters in 2020 and wrote to friends about how he planned to kill a few of them. Eventually he did. He deliberately drove his car into a crowd of BLM protesters, claimed that one of them had maybe raised a rifle in his direction, and then gunned him down before plowing through the rest of the crowd to make his escape.

    A jury—in Texas—unanimously convicted him of murder and sentenced him to 25 years in prison, but right wingers were outraged and Gov. Greg Abbott promised to pardon him just as soon as he could.

    That turned out to be yesterday, and Abbott has followed through. Perry is a free man because, apparently, it's now legal in Texas to kill protesters if they annoy you a lot. This is disgusting beyond words. Perry's act was a brutal, cold-blooded, violent crime motivated by a long history of outspoken racism, but because he was acting out a conservative anti-BLM fantasy Abbott set him free. I'd say it's unbelievable, but these days that's not true. It's all too believable from a modern Republican.


    Texas governor pardons racist murderer - Kevin Drum
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    It's no different than when Southern white conservatives protected members of the Klan who murdered civil rights protesters. These people have barely changed 60+ years later.
     
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  19. tampagtr

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    You're so divisive, just trying to make people feel guilty
     
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