KC Chiefs kicker complains about "emasculation of men," gay pride & says women should be homemakers

If 30,000 people on Change.org couldnt get the Death Star built, I dont think they can impact Kansas City roster moves either

 

But less than 100 cancelled Colin Kaepernick

 

KC is angling to become the most hated team in the NFL outside Kansas/Missouri. Everyone can find a reason to hate them between Swift/Kelce oversaturation, Patrick Mahomes oversaturation, their racist team name and chants, a vocal TradCath kicker and their dynasty status. They really have it all.

 

They really do admire the Patriots dynasty in all of its ways.

 

You are a very fair poster, but I have to say it takes some flexibility to try and make the two opinions seem different. Its just two sides of the same coin.

People are calling for him to be cut. That is exactly what maga types celebrated for Kaep.

Both sides are wrong in my opinion.

 

I'm hoping Andy Reid starts showing up to press conferences in sleeveless hoodies, its the final piece of the puzzle

 

I agree. I wonder how many that signed that bemoan the fate of Colin Koepernick.

It is kind of a shame when players go over the top with their political views. If Aaron Rogers were a QB of a team I liked it would sour the experience a bit. There is a tribal affiliation with sports teams, but when you have individuals in a different political tribal matrix in your tribe it causes cognitive dissonance.

 

Except Kaep really was kicked out of the league! Vive la difference!

One other ever so slight distinction that may interrupt the omnipresent both sides narrative. Kaep said "don't oppress us; I know my rights". Butker says "submit to our oppression; surrender your rights voluntarily even before we remove them".

 

Just to reiterate, I'm not a fan of his message but I'm not bothered by it either although I could certainly understand why many many people and women in particular would be. But at the end of the day he was asked to give a speech by a conservative, religious and private university. Where do people stop when it comes to personal beliefs? I think people are dishonest when it comes to which beliefs they decide to take a stand against.

 

When the speaker's "personal beliefs" are about how others are supposed to live, especially when it is part of a larger movement/message that wants to use the force of law to remove rights.

 

Yeah ok. It's easy to take any opinion to the nth degree. Same as how gun fanatics claim any legislation about gun control will lead to gun grabbing....

I'm not going to make that leap but to each their own.

 

Zac Davis of the Jesuit magazine America gives a Catholic rebuttal, with actual understanding about what he is talking about in terms of doctrine, in contrast to Mr. Butker.

Harrison Butker’s commencement speech and the danger of a Catholic ‘dead traditionalism’

 

To be clear, I personally don't think he should lose his job, and I doubt he will. Just saw there's a petition out there with 30K signatures, but that seems like a far cry from the President (and leader of MAGA) calling Kaep an SOB and calling for his job. I'm not saying there isn't inconsistency on both sides depending upon whose ox is getting gored. There always is. Also seems fair to point out that the MAGA types (not you) are typically the ones categorically condemning "cancel culture" the loudest - until they are confronted with someone speaking about racial injustice or by a transgender person on a beer can. I'm happy to concede the broader point that cancel culture, however that's defined, comes from both the left and the right.

 

That is an outstanding piece. I especially found this interesting:

It is the fundamental problem with...fundamentalism. Often, due to the failures of the "outside world" (as I said before, fundamentalists largely are trying to deal with some issue that they have), they turn inward. And their contempt for the outside world makes them both contemptuous of those they claim to care about and arrogant in their certainty.

 

The NFL's statement is on this page. I wouldn't quite call it a condemnation.

 

This Pope is failing the teachings of Jesus and the Bible. Really no way around it. And the kicker for KC should be calling out the leaders when they fail.

 

Amen

 

You really should be very careful then.

Apostasy is real. And there are leaders in every denomination that will deal with it.

The kicker for KC seems to have a much better understanding of where to turn when it comes to the teaching of Jesus and the Bible.

 

I agree with that. Given it was a conservative religious school he ought to be able to say such things without blowback. I always hated it when liberals demonized the chick fil a president when a reporter asked him his personal views on gay marriage, and he shared them, and thought caused a big stink. I disagree with his personal views but it has no bearing on the operation of chick fil a.